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PostPost by: freddy22112211 » Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:12 pm

That BRG over white Sprint looks good - don't know if I've ever seen one before - or are they more common than I think?
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PostPost by: trw99 » Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:37 pm

freddy22112211 wrote:That BRG over white Sprint looks good - don't know if I've ever seen one before - or are they more common than I think?
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I suspect that is a Lagoon Blue Sprint, photographed on a dull day and therefore has not reproduced well.

I have seen a British Racing Green over white FHC before, but it was a respray and not a colour option from new, unless to special order and I know of none.

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PostPost by: elansprint71 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:44 pm

Sadly David Porter passed away, so please do not try to contact him via ten tenths.
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PostPost by: elansprint71 » Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:52 am

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PostPost by: elansprint71 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:44 pm

Bringing this thread slightly up to date and linking in the +2 BRM thread (read that so you will understand what I'm on about)... hopefully...

http://www.lotuselan.net/forums/elan-plus-f13/price-lotus-elan-brm-for-sale-pistonheads-t18661.html

Whilst Paul Matty might have said that there were "a small run of +2s given the BRM treatment" during a conversation I had with Alan Rigarlsford, who worked at Mike Spence and painted all the cars they converted, he said that there was one +2, painted polychromatic metallic green, fitted with Minilites and one Europa; which he thinks went straight to a customer in Portugal.

Mike Spence developments continued (he reckons) for 4/5 months after he died, mainly preparing twin-cams for F3 cars, but also for Lotus road cars; interestingly he said that Ian Walker was also supplying BRM twin-cams at this time. MS Developments BRM engines were built at Maidenhead by Telford Cook, prior to this they had been supplied by BRM at Bourne.

The total number of BRM Elans built at Mike Spence was no more than fifteen, all were S3, about 50/50 fhc/dhc but one was painted in Jaguar dark blue with the day-glo orange bumpers.

Initially some BRM engines had standard cam-covers, than a BRM plate was riveted on standard covers and finally a special finned casting with BRM script. MS Developments engines had this casting in orange crackle finish and a Mike Spence engine plate with unit number stamped in it.

Alan meticulously kept a notebook detailing all the cars, engine numbers, chassis numbers, registrations, dates, etc. but this was borrowed by a chap who's name was well-known in Lotus circles and who subsequently denied all knowledge. This is a tragedy; he is a bastard.

I have a couple of other leads to follow up, which I will do in the fullness of time.
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PostPost by: trw99 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:36 pm

Good info Pete.

And good luck with recapturing that book; that sort of info should be available to future generations of enthusiasts, not locked away in a safe.

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PostPost by: innesw » Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:13 pm

Great information update Pete!

I love that picture of the B.R.M. cam cover simply perfection with the lighting, will need to download a copy for my computer background from your Flickr if that's ok?

I have a friend who has had a basket case S4 converted by TTR to a B.R.M. replica. When he was younger he owned a genuine B.R.M. elan, but sold it and has been after one since... I should ask him for more information on this, see if he remembers who he sold it to, unfortunately he doesn't use the forum.

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PostPost by: elansprint71 » Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:20 pm

innesw wrote:Great information update Pete!

I love that picture of the B.R.M. cam cover simply perfection with the lighting, will need to download a copy for my computer background from your Flickr if that's ok?

I have a friend who has had a basket case S4 converted by TTR to a B.R.M. replica. When he was younger he owned a genuine B.R.M. elan, but sold it and has been after one since... I should ask him for more information on this, see if he remembers who he sold it to, unfortunately he doesn't use the forum.

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Innes, by all means use the photo for your desktop. Please do ask if your friend has any info- registration number would be good, or if he has any photos to share. :D
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PostPost by: elj221c » Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:22 am

Found this. Cover says it all. Unfortunately there was no article to go with the cover picture.
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PostPost by: vstibbard » Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:58 pm

Hi

Rare;y get colour shots back then so it would be a great article to find, as its the year book, I'd expect that the article on the BRM powered car was in one of the editions of that year, anyone have a complete set of 1972 Cars and Car Conversions?

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PostPost by: elj221c » Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:49 pm

Vaughan,

I have Jan '68 to Nov '77 of CCC. Unfortunately there is nothing on BRM Elans either in '71 volumes or the '72. The '71 and '72 yearbooks that I have precede the year but there is nothing in those either.
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PostPost by: alan d bell » Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:18 pm

i have copies of the mike spence limited lotus brm specification sheet and the service sheet showing the price of the mods nad who to contact (peter davies). I got these from a previous owner of the car who said that this was the spec of the original engine in my elan and they came with it. i do not have the facilities to post copies but if any of you do i will send copies by snail mail (to one person only) and they can be posted.
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PostPost by: john.p.clegg » Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:21 pm

PM sent....

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PostPost by: Old English White » Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:06 pm

elj221c wrote:Found this. Cover says it all. Unfortunately there was no article to go with the cover picture.

this cover show an ?lan engine...
It deserve to be on my poster...
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PostPost by: vstibbard » Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:31 am

I'm looking for a metallic green to paint a car, does anyone know the paint code of the colour on s3 dhc in the thread above?
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