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PostPost by: Newsax » Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:56 am

wotsisname wrote:You look to have a nice lot of original parts and looks a really good starting point.
You are missing the extension to the brake master cylinder. The radiator might not be original and the vacuum take off from the front carb should run down the side of the radiator to the vacuum tank in the chassis.
Take care of the centre console and the dashpad (quite fragile), both are difficult/impossible to replace and yours look in good order.
To get the rear seats out, you pull the centre (basket weave) section off to expose a couple of screws. Care when lifting it out as the top of the seat has a metal plate that can poke through the vinyl and rip the headlining material on the side panels. The original material can be difficult to source. The side panels are fastened behind the external vents (this is also the coathook screw fixing) and there may be a screw or two behind the door seals. Take a lot of photos.. I think we owners spend a lot of time trying to work out where the various parts should fit when rebuilding.
With the exception of a few earths the wiring loom is contained within the body (take a note of how it runs as this can also be a puzzle later). The loom is in 3 parts, with the join being just behind the dashboard by the heater.
The metalwork in the sill area can be replaced with the body fitted to the chassis..I seem to remember it being easier from the rear and it may help to dismantle the suspension first. You may have to cut/grind off the bolts along the lower edge that are under the carpet edge. The plates in the rear wheel arches give access to the seatbelt upper mounting plates and part of the door locks.
hope this all helps... and good luck

Adrian

Thank you Adrian,

What do you mean by cylindre brake cylindre extension ?

Radiator seems completely shot anyway so would more than probably need a replacement .

Thanks for the head up on how to remove rear seat 8)

I will post some more closer pics early April :wink:
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PostPost by: pharriso » Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:51 am

Newsax wrote:Thank you Adrian,

What do you mean by cylindre brake cylindre extension ?


You should have a device called a SOVY on top of the Master Cylinder, it warns of low brake fluid
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They occassionaly come up on eBay
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PostPost by: Newsax » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:05 am

pharriso wrote:
Newsax wrote:Thank you Adrian,

What do you mean by cylindre brake cylindre extension ?


You should have a device called a SOVY on top of the Master Cylinder, it warns of low brake fluid
Plus2_EuroSOVY.JPG


They occassionaly come up on eBay


Ok so the module to light up the light mentioning issue with brake circuit ? Not really required at first so. thank you will have a look for one 8)
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PostPost by: pharriso » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:12 am

Newsax wrote:Ok so the module to light up the light mentioning issue with brake circuit ? Not really required at first so. thank you will have a look for one 8)


Yes, that's it.
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PostPost by: alanr » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:52 am

The Sovy extension is a pain in the butt! The previous owner I guess had replaced it with a normal cap to eliminate the fluid leaks.
It can be difficult to make a good seal with the master cylinder and also they give false warnings due to the float deteriorating. Not available new.
Personally I think that you have more important challenges ahead than worry about this minor originality issue! :D

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PostPost by: wotsisname » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:58 am

The early ones don't have the SOVY , to the best of my knowledge. They have an extension to allow extra volume of brake fluid, due to front and rear disk brakes (compared with the Triumph source). I will post a picture later. It is not something to worry about , just responding to the "what is missing / incorrect? " question.
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PostPost by: wotsisname » Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:24 am

Removing the seat back and then lifting the parcel tray out of the way, gives you full access to the rear chassis bolts.
There is a pair just behind the dashboard, in front of the heater.. you should be able to get to these without removing the dash. I recommend taking the front seats and runners out to make life easier.
The rest of the bolts are easier.. just note where any shims are fitted in case you keep the chassis.
The hoses to the heater are behind the engine block and tricky to access. The carbs have to come off anyway, so this helps.
I definitely recommend the parts list (available on this forum or RDent website).. there is also a list on this site of how to decipher the part numbers. you will have to get used to the imperial measurement system :lol:
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PostPost by: Newsax » Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:48 pm

Sill member seems to be completely roten... Question how to remove them???
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PostPost by: alanr » Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:19 pm

If you read the link I posted on Page 1 of this thread it tells you, and also shows you, how to remove and replace the sills. :D

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PostPost by: Newsax » Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:56 pm

Yes be seing how far it is rotten, I doubt being able to push them out :lol:
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PostPost by: Newsax » Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:50 am

Hello Guys,

Now that my bridge is finally installed. I can clearly see that the subframe is totally rotten :cry:
Hopefully, I probably have found an lotus subbframe also from 1968 to replace it :D (just waiting for end of UK quarantine to pick it up, as well as a bunch of new pieces :shock: ).

I'm still far from starting, but getting into it, learning more and more on my beauty :wink:

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PostPost by: rgh0 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:08 am

That has to be the most rusted chassis i have ever seen :shock: . A replacement chassis is certainly the best starting point :D

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PostPost by: Geoff » Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:56 pm

Hi, welcome to Elan ownership,I have just finished restoring an Elan S4 and I also live in Belgium
I am at the coast in Bredene. If you live nearby I can come and have a look and help out if needed
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PostPost by: Newsax » Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:41 am

Geoff wrote:Hi, welcome to Elan ownership,I have just finished restoring an Elan S4 and I also live in Belgium
I am at the coast in Bredene. If you live nearby I can come and have a look and help out if needed
cheers Geoff.


I'm more on the south side near Mons,
Any help is welcome, but a bit far away I'm afraid .

But I took not eof it :D
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PostPost by: rgh0 » Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:07 am

Newsax wrote:
Geoff wrote:Hi, welcome to Elan ownership,I have just finished restoring an Elan S4 and I also live in Belgium
I am at the coast in Bredene. If you live nearby I can come and have a look and help out if needed
cheers Geoff.


I'm more on the south side near Mons,
Any help is welcome, but a bit far away I'm afraid .

But I took not eof it :D


There is nothing in Belgium that is to far away from any other part of Belgium, that is if you come from Australia. :lol:
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