Plus 2 newbie needs advice from old hands!
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:23 pm
Hi
From reading some of the posts on here I gather this is frequented by the best of the best in terms of elan knowledge and experience! I finally took the plunge and bought a +2 (s130/4 1973) on Friday. Hasn't seen much action in last 10 - 20 years, so seems to be original(ish) and was expecting few teething problems. I decided the old girl needed to stretch her legs so took her to Gloucestershire from London for the weekend. Needless to say I am already smitten, but she didn't make it back through the rain on Sunday. There are a few items that I would be very grateful for some expert insight, if anyone has the patience for a very inexperienced (but very keen) Lotus owner / mechanic! I went for the elan as it seemed to tick all the boxes of looks and engineering pedigree, but simple enough for me to cut my teeth under the bonnet... and the rest of the car!
1. Firstly, she didn't make it home as began to misfire, increasingly so, once the rain started coming down (only 25 miles from home! Having owned an old mini in a previous life it felt very similar to the age old problem of water ingress into the distributor, however I understand this isn't common on the +2? Does anyone have a view why the ignition system may have thrown in the towel? (She is stored away from home so haven't yet been able to start her in the dry)
2. Almost at my destination on Friday when the entire electrical system went down. Engine still ran fine, but all lights - in and out - went out. Interesting on a pitch black country road! I braked, and half a minute later everything came back on. Any ideas? Loose connection? Bad earth(s)?
3. Internal heater isn't blowing hot air - fan works fine but no heat. I can probably figure this out with the workshop manual but if anyone can save me some time that would be great.
4. Exhaust fumes in the cab - not excessive but definite tinge of exhaust aroma to my clothes when I woke up the next day. I have read a post on here about this before so I am assuming it is down to sealing the boot properly?
5. noise at the rear - once over 20 mph there is a constant noise coming from the back seat area. It sounds like a toilet cistern filling under pressure, as in more of a scchhhhh, than a whine, but I am guessing it might be the dif? It isn't very loud and does not seem to change pitch with speed. Is this normal?
6. Vibration at 60 mph - It has a 4 speed gear box so was expecting noise at higher but there is a definite shuddering vibration (steering wheel especially) at around 60 mph. It lessens again at higher speeds. Could this be a wheel balancing issue? Or is this just normal? (first time I have driven a plus 2 over 40mph!
7. Above 60mph she continues to accelerate but the handling gets even lighter and almost skips sideways a little as the speed increases, or when you come off the power. Again, is this normal? It isn't too bad, and easy to adjust but after all I have ready about the Elan's handling I wondered if this is a fault. Shocks? They seem ok but are old and as I say have not seen much road time in a while!
Sorry if these are inane questions. I am thrilled to be an elan owner and looking forward to understanding her foibles! If you have any comments on any of the above, that would be most welcome. I have ingested Gordon Lund's restoration guide and much of the workshop manual but need to learn a lot!
Cheers
jonathan
London
From reading some of the posts on here I gather this is frequented by the best of the best in terms of elan knowledge and experience! I finally took the plunge and bought a +2 (s130/4 1973) on Friday. Hasn't seen much action in last 10 - 20 years, so seems to be original(ish) and was expecting few teething problems. I decided the old girl needed to stretch her legs so took her to Gloucestershire from London for the weekend. Needless to say I am already smitten, but she didn't make it back through the rain on Sunday. There are a few items that I would be very grateful for some expert insight, if anyone has the patience for a very inexperienced (but very keen) Lotus owner / mechanic! I went for the elan as it seemed to tick all the boxes of looks and engineering pedigree, but simple enough for me to cut my teeth under the bonnet... and the rest of the car!
1. Firstly, she didn't make it home as began to misfire, increasingly so, once the rain started coming down (only 25 miles from home! Having owned an old mini in a previous life it felt very similar to the age old problem of water ingress into the distributor, however I understand this isn't common on the +2? Does anyone have a view why the ignition system may have thrown in the towel? (She is stored away from home so haven't yet been able to start her in the dry)
2. Almost at my destination on Friday when the entire electrical system went down. Engine still ran fine, but all lights - in and out - went out. Interesting on a pitch black country road! I braked, and half a minute later everything came back on. Any ideas? Loose connection? Bad earth(s)?
3. Internal heater isn't blowing hot air - fan works fine but no heat. I can probably figure this out with the workshop manual but if anyone can save me some time that would be great.
4. Exhaust fumes in the cab - not excessive but definite tinge of exhaust aroma to my clothes when I woke up the next day. I have read a post on here about this before so I am assuming it is down to sealing the boot properly?
5. noise at the rear - once over 20 mph there is a constant noise coming from the back seat area. It sounds like a toilet cistern filling under pressure, as in more of a scchhhhh, than a whine, but I am guessing it might be the dif? It isn't very loud and does not seem to change pitch with speed. Is this normal?
6. Vibration at 60 mph - It has a 4 speed gear box so was expecting noise at higher but there is a definite shuddering vibration (steering wheel especially) at around 60 mph. It lessens again at higher speeds. Could this be a wheel balancing issue? Or is this just normal? (first time I have driven a plus 2 over 40mph!
7. Above 60mph she continues to accelerate but the handling gets even lighter and almost skips sideways a little as the speed increases, or when you come off the power. Again, is this normal? It isn't too bad, and easy to adjust but after all I have ready about the Elan's handling I wondered if this is a fault. Shocks? They seem ok but are old and as I say have not seen much road time in a while!
Sorry if these are inane questions. I am thrilled to be an elan owner and looking forward to understanding her foibles! If you have any comments on any of the above, that would be most welcome. I have ingested Gordon Lund's restoration guide and much of the workshop manual but need to learn a lot!
Cheers
jonathan
London