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Re: The abridged saga of my Europa lunacy

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:37 pm
by Chuck Nukem
cliveyboy wrote:A car guy I know has just done a great article on the Europa.
He absolutely loved it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMBerb7l3pM

He did drive a Plus 2 and hated it as the owner had jacked the drivers seat up and messed around with it. I have told him not to judge the Plus 2 by that particular car and that he should borrow my Sprint.

Clive


JayEmm did a great job on the Europa video. As someone who has not yet driven a Europa I live vicariously through it.

I have no ill feelings toward the +2 and I agree he drove the wrong car. That Europa was very well sorted where the +2 was modified in a way that would really affect his enjoyment of it.

Re: The abridged saga of my Europa lunacy

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:00 pm
by TBG
Good video, and very interesting how much trouble he had with the 5 speed box. What is fitted to those cars? D

Re: The abridged saga of my Europa lunacy

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:15 pm
by Chuck Nukem
On the twin cams the 5 speed is a Renault 365 box with a special 5th gear from Hewland. 4 speed is a Renault 352 box. The 5 speeds have issues with parts availability, so it has become common to use the more modern Renault NG series. The downside of those is that they are not designed to use the driveshafts as stressed suspension links, so one must fabricate brackets to have an additional arm to support the rear wheels.

The shifting problem is the heavy steel multi piece shaft that articulates the gear change. It twists and pushes/pulls. There is a small u-joint, a bushing which wears, and several other adjustments which cause for an incredibly vague shifting experience. Some owners have changed to cable and report of a much improved shifting experience. I am going to do a hybrid shaft and cable design to keep the length of the cable as short as possible.

Re: The abridged saga of my Europa lunacy

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:17 am
by andyelan
Hi Guys

I'll admit it it takes some time and effort but once it's properly set up and adjusted the shift on the 5 speed Europa should work just fine.

I agree with comments made here about JayEmm's Plus 2 road test. It's a pity he didn't find a properly sorted one like mine to drive.

Andy

Re: The abridged saga of my Europa lunacy

PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:02 am
by Chuck Nukem
The gold leaf is down! Final layers of clear go down tomorrow!

Re: The abridged saga of my Europa lunacy

PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:19 am
by Mazzini
Superb job!

Re: The abridged saga of my Europa lunacy

PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:12 pm
by Chuck Nukem
Here she is!

Re: The abridged saga of my Europa lunacy

PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:59 am
by SENC
WOW! Looks fantastic!!!

Re: The abridged saga of my Europa lunacy

PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:11 pm
by Chuck Nukem
Finally basking in the sun!!!

Re: The abridged saga of my Europa lunacy

PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:14 pm
by SENC
Spectacular!

Re: The abridged saga of my Europa lunacy

PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:20 pm
by Chuck Nukem
Thank you!!

Re: The abridged saga of my Europa lunacy

PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:24 pm
by TBG
Blooooming amaaaazing!! D

Re: The abridged saga of my Europa lunacy

PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:21 am
by Mazzini
+1! Can I send you my Sprint to paint? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: The abridged saga of my Europa lunacy

PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:48 pm
by mbell
Mazzini wrote:+1! Can I send you my Sprint to paint? :lol: :lol: :lol:


He keeps telling me we should do my car and I keep not taking him up on it... the more I see this progress the more foolish I realize I am! There again I know how much work has been put in to get it to its current state, so I know I am more lazy than foolish!

Re: The abridged saga of my Europa lunacy

PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 4:55 pm
by The Veg
WOW!!!

If I lived close-by I'd volunteer my car for his paintwork skills!