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23B - a pretty close relative: is this a homegrown one?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:14 pm
by el-saturn
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161756949400?fo ... &viewitem=

is this possibly an original? ............................been savin? so much on my "princess" recently and figured instead of stupid shiny b.s. i could concentrate on a cheap 23eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee sandy

Re: 23B - a pretty close relative: is this a homegrown one?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:54 pm
by elansprint71
No mention/evidence of chassis number at all?

If this were a serious sale; much more provenance would be required.

Kit-car repro is my guess... I'm often wrong.

Thank heavens for the Historic Lotus Register.

Re: 23B - a pretty close relative: is this a homegrown one?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:07 pm
by Mazzini
Xanthos maybe? They've been around since the mid to late 1980's, so good back then that they were passed off as originals by the unscrupulous.

Re: 23B - a pretty close relative: is this a homegrown one?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:29 am
by bill308
I asked the seller if it was a real Lotus and if he would share the sn. He replied that it was a real Lotus, 23S126.

Bill.

Re: 23B - a pretty close relative: is this a homegrown one?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:24 am
by batfish
If you contact the Lotus 23 registrar he may be able to provide some information
http://www.historiclotusregister.co.uk/ ... nadams.htm
Been looking for one at reasonable price myself for years now.

regards

Andy

Re: 23B - a pretty close relative: is this a homegrown one?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:27 am
by rgh0
If its an original Lotus 23B it will have a period history that is verifiable and be worth $200k minimum

cheers
Rohan

Re: 23B - a pretty close relative: is this a homegrown one?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:24 am
by billwill
elansprint71 wrote:No mention/evidence of chassis number at all?

If this were a serious sale; much more provenance would be required.

Kit-car repro is my guess... I'm often wrong.

Thank heavens for the Historic Lotus Register.


It's been added + photo of plate' 23 S126

Re: 23B - a pretty close relative: is this a homegrown one?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:37 pm
by gus
doesn't look like the Lotus components tag on a Seven.....

Re: 23B - a pretty close relative: is this a homegrown one?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:47 pm
by elansprint71
I asked the type 23 Registrars in the Historic Lotus Register, here's the reply:

...this car is one of three, possibly four cars claiming that identity. It is known to the register as 23-s-126a and it was previously owned by Kim Baker who bought it from Bill Hollingsworth who in turn bought it from Tom Yeager. It was Green with Red wheels when I last saw pictures of it but it has recently been repainted in Gulf colours by the current vendor who purchased it from Kim around April 2014 as far as I know. Sadly the current owner asked for lots of information from the register via a friend when he bought the car but never bothered to send us any of his information so I cannot discuss the car with him directly.

None of the cars claiming to be 23-s-126 have a complete history, but this car has a little more than the others. Sadly however the history it does have it is not supported by sufficient evidence to allow us to accept the car as being authentic. We therefore currently classify it as Amber, which means we can neither confirm nor deny it?s authenticity. This doesn?t mean it is not a real car, it just means that there is not enough evidence available to the register to confirm it.

Re: 23B - a pretty close relative: is this a homegrown one?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:00 pm
by el-saturn
....................that's what it boils down to: A REPLICA---------------------worth 20grand (engine + gearbox if it's a hewland!! P L U S my wife 'd kill me!!!! almost swiss sandy!! 36 / 4982 DHL!!!
PS (but imported by the swiss importer as such and part of the swiss registration: open car with a top!!)

Re: 23B - a pretty close relative: is this a homegrown one?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:18 am
by gjz30075
Thanks Pete, for checking. Transparency is needed for deals like this.