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PostPost by: LangeHenk » Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:11 pm

Question: I have transported a elan plus 2 from the UK to the Netherlands and put it on a Netherlands registration.

The dutch governement has taken in the paperwork I recieved from the owner in england.

I only have the name and adress from the previous owner in england and the original english license plates with the car.

Would it be possible to return the car to the uk and get the original UK registration back on it or is that going to be difficult ?

Anybody can help me out here ?

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PostPost by: Elanintheforest » Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:25 pm

Henk, the first thing to do it to see if the car is still registered with the DVLA in the UK.

https://www.gov.uk/get-vehicle-information-from-dvla

If it is then getting it registered in your name will be straightforward so long as you have a UK address. If it isn't registered, you have to jump through a few more hoops!

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PostPost by: AHM » Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:39 pm

2 important questions

When did you do all this?

What paperwork did you have? (what did it look like?)
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PostPost by: LangeHenk » Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:55 pm

I do not know how the paperwork looked like . I had a dutch lotus psecialist drive it over and he arranged the import and everything.

I know the seller took of a piece from the paperwork and kept that.
Everything went down april may 2014
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PostPost by: LangeHenk » Fri Jan 02, 2015 4:06 pm

I checked the vehicle registration link and the license plate number still pops up on the correct make and year.
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PostPost by: john.p.clegg » Fri Jan 02, 2015 4:37 pm

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Another question...Why would you want to do this?

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PostPost by: LangeHenk » Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:06 pm

Hey John,

I am talking to a lotus dealer in the netherlands to trade in the plus 2 for a westfield lotus eleven . The price he is willing to give is a bit subject to information how easy it is to sell it to the UK because this dealer has a number of clients in the uk and a RHD sterring is more easy a more worth in the UK then in the Netherlands.

I promised him to do the footwork on finding out info about this registration return.
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PostPost by: john.p.clegg » Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:44 pm

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O.K. I've stuck my neck out for others and not learned my lesson yet,but if you wish you can use me to register your car in U.K. (promise I won't steal it ) or at least use my address to register it...

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PostPost by: Europatc » Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:57 pm

Top man John
happy new year
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PostPost by: LangeHenk » Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:13 pm

Thanks John,

You really are trooper. I will talk to the dealer and if neccessary take you up on your offer.


And no matter if I use your help or not. Whenever you are in rotterdam netherlands. Dinner is on me. :)

Best wishes for 2015
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PostPost by: AHM » Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:00 am

Gents sounds like a nice idea but don't do it!

Henk,
Registering a car left or right hand drive in the UK is easy and cheap. If it was on the road since 1983 and hence on the database the New keeper simply fills in a form V62 (which they will have to do anyway!) stating that the V5 has been lost / car exported or whatever and he will get a new one with their own details. It is simply isn't worth doing, there is no system to beat in this case. If it was a Car that had always been in the Netherlands or it would be no different.

Anyone in the UK buying a car overseas will know this - are you sure the dealer isn't using the apparent difficulty as a bargaining point? If they have UK clients they know this!

John a kind offer but I'm not sure you have thought your offer through? Are you offering to pay the back dated tax or SORN fine as well? What will you tell the Police when the previous owner tells the DVLA that he sold it to someone in the Netherlands, where it happens to be registered?

Just because it is on the Database doesn't mean that the DVLA don't know it is in the Netherlands!
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PostPost by: john.p.clegg » Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:08 am

Hmmmm...as i say I've been bit before and not learned my lesson...but am willing to use my address as a pont of correspondance and contact....as for the fines,no thank you..

Always wondered how one proves ownership of a vehicle,the " log book" only shows the registered keeper?

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PostPost by: AHM » Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:59 pm

Contact point for correspondence sounds good but the DVLA will only send correspondence to a UK resident at their home address whilst in the country.

My best suggestion would be for you to make an exploratory phone call to test the lay of the land.
Then make a written enquiry to the effect of :
" I intend to import a classic car from the Netherlands that was previously registered in the UK, and exported in 2013. I believe it is still on the DVLA database, but the documents have been submitted to the Dutch authorities..... I would be grateful if you would furnish me with the necessary forms."

If you write it is more likely to get passed to someone who knows what they are talking about - You then get an official letter and the forms. Henk can give these to the dealer as the evidence needed, and the new owner has the details.

john.p.clegg wrote:Always wondered how one proves ownership of a vehicle,the " log book" only shows the registered keeper?

A receipt for the purchase is usually accepted as proof of ownership :wink:
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