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PostPost by: 69S4 » Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:31 pm

Craven wrote:Concerns over this particular virus I think is due to the fact there is no antiviral medication (vaccine) available to help prevent serious complications, if you get it you’re on your own.



Not quite true but only early day trials going on at the moment: -

"Our findings reveal that remdesivir and chloroquine are highly effective in the control of 2019-nCoV infection in vitro. Since these compounds have been used in human patients with a safety track record and shown to be effective against various ailments, we suggest that they should be assessed in human patients suffering from the novel coronavirus disease."

The above quote is from http://www.natap.org although similar reports are on many science /medical sites. Chloroquine in particular is commonly available as it's been a std anti malarial drug for many years. The other drug mentioned, remdesivir, was originally developed as an anti Ebola drug but its mechanism of action seems to also be effective against coronavirus. If you catch cv and happen to live next to a hospital trialing them you may be lucky. If not, well, it's only flu :(
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PostPost by: wotsisname » Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:00 pm

https://time.com/5790545/first-covid-19 ... G0SEB9KXNw

if it pans out.. only seen this from one source.. so could be fake news
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PostPost by: USA64 » Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:17 pm

Their stock is way up; so maybe they're on to something.
We are supposed to be having fun, are we not?
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PostPost by: alan.barker » Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:49 am

Well from midday today the European frontiers are closed. So that will mean now UK is out of the European community big problems for British people who live half of their time in UK and the other half in Europe.
Here in France for at least 15 days you need a special reason to move around and a special paper to justify it.
Like Macron has announced it's the War against the Coronavirus.
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PostPost by: 69S4 » Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:04 am

alan.barker wrote:Well from midday today the European frontiers are closed. So that will mean now UK is out of the European community big problems for British people who live half of their time in UK and the other half in Europe.
Here in France for at least 15 days you need a special reason to move around and a special paper to justify it.
Like Macron has announced it's the War against the Coronavirus.
Alan


Yes, our town (Alpe D'Huez) is now closed until further notice. Everyone there on vacation had to be out by 4.00pm on Sunday and most businesses are now closed as well. Pity the virus only affects people; I don't see it having any affect on our tax bills. :(
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PostPost by: gino1 » Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:31 am

Hi Steve,

Apologies for the late post.
Yes the Virus has spread considerably and mainly in the northern part of Italy.
Last Saturday many fled the north going back to their hometowns in the South of Italy stupidly carrying the virus with them, now the virus has also hit the south.
Intensive care is limited and now rumours are saying there is the awful choice of who they should save and who not :shock:
The old aged are worst hit being the most vulnerable.
From last week many companies have closed for at least two weeks, schools have now been closed a month, we are now all confined to our homes and have to justify why and where we are going.
Many people have been fined for travelling without proper reason.
The emphasis is now on self-protection and the use of a surgical mask when in the presence of others.
Mask and gloves when at the supermarket or where you have to touch many different surfaces.

There's now a Black market for masks and hand gel ...!!

The majority of deaths occur to people who already have other illnesses, Corona Virus just finishes them off .

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PostPost by: rgh0 » Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:57 am

gino1 wrote:Hi Steve,

Apologies for the late post.
Yes the Virus has spread considerably and mainly in the northern part of Italy.
Last Saturday many fled the north going back to their hometowns in the South of Italy stupidly carrying the virus with them, now the virus has also hit the south.
Intensive care is limited and now rumours are saying there is the awful choice of who they should save and who not :shock:
The old aged are worst hit being the most vulnerable.
From last week many companies have closed for at least two weeks, schools have now been closed a month, we are now all confined to our homes and have to justify why and where we are going.
Many people have been fined for travelling without proper reason.
The emphasis is now on self-protection and the use of a surgical mask when in the presence of others.
Mask and gloves when at the supermarket or where you have to touch many different surfaces.

There's now a Black market for masks and hand gel ...!!

The majority of deaths occur to people who already have other illnesses, Corona Virus just finishes them off .

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Sorry to be a cynic but it sounds like normal Italian productivity will not be affected to much

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PostPost by: alan.barker » Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:02 pm

Hi Gino,
My thoughts are with in Italy .
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PostPost by: gino1 » Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:32 pm

Actually Rohan productivity will be affected as many companies have shutdown for at least two weeks now.
Many companies are Smart working but that's not much help when you're a manufacturer.

Many shops are closed and only supermarkets and the local food shops are open everything else has been shutdown.

I live in a small town in the South of Milano with a population of 9000 people and it's a ghost town.
You wake up in the morning and you see some bloke covered up to his eyeballs spraying your house with disinfectant.

I am working this week but next week i have to stay at home and when i'm in the company I have to wear a face mask all day.

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PostPost by: elanfan1 » Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:54 pm

rgh0 wrote:
gino1 wrote:Hi Steve,

Apologies for the late post.
Yes the Virus has spread considerably and mainly in the northern part of Italy.
Last Saturday many fled the north going back to their hometowns in the South of Italy stupidly carrying the virus with them, now the virus has also hit the south.
Intensive care is limited and now rumours are saying there is the awful choice of who they should save and who not :shock:
The old aged are worst hit being the most vulnerable.
From last week many companies have closed for at least two weeks, schools have now been closed a month, we are now all confined to our homes and have to justify why and where we are going.
Many people have been fined for travelling without proper reason.
The emphasis is now on self-protection and the use of a surgical mask when in the presence of others.
Mask and gloves when at the supermarket or where you have to touch many different surfaces.

There's now a Black market for masks and hand gel ...!!

The majority of deaths occur to people who already have other illnesses, Corona Virus just finishes them off .

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Sorry to be a cynic but it sounds like normal Italian productivity will not be affected to much

cheers
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Is the smiley missing there Rohan?

Latest projection is that this could kill up to 250000 people in the UK. I’m very much in the vulnerable element of the population so give it a few months and there maybe some cheaper parts going!! :shock: :lol: :lol:
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PostPost by: 69S4 » Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:38 pm

elanfan1 wrote: give it a few months and there maybe some cheaper parts going!! :shock: :lol: :lol:

this could kill up to 250000 people in the UK.


There's optimism and there's optimism. Earlier on I read a post on another forum from somebody in their 70's with what sounds like considerable 'underlying health issues' looking forward to a glut of cheap post virus classic motorcycles hitting the market later this year ... :?

Anyone making viral consequence plans for their prides and joy?

250,000 people dying sounds like some kind of dystopian version of the battle of the Somme (as if the original wasn't dystopian enough) where instead of forcing teenagers over the top at bayonet point we're pushing pensioners into the firing line. At this rate it'll only be a matter of time before some kind of macabre poster of Boris morphed into a latter day Lord Kitchener appears, with his finger pointing accusatorially at us, saying it's our duty to catch the bug to save the women and children. May, as the Chinese say, you live in interesting times.
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PostPost by: billwill » Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:13 pm

It's all a conspiracy to solve the old-age-care, housing and pensions crisis. :shock: :D
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PostPost by: JonB » Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:58 pm

elanfan1 wrote:
rgh0 wrote:
Sorry to be a cynic but it sounds like normal Italian productivity will not be affected to much

cheers
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Is the smiley missing there Rohan?


He already said he was in a grumpy mood today..! viewtopic.php?t=46250&f=42&start=0#p331608
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PostPost by: Grizzly » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:01 pm

Was anyone else thinking with the very mild winter here in the uk we were always going to get hit with a bad strain of the flu? just glad it's not the Norovirus thats spreading.

Frankly i'm more upset with the football being called of temporarily!! 30 years without a title and then this happens, even if we do win the league there won't be a bus celebration...... GGGRrrrrrrr
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PostPost by: Mazzini » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:43 pm

[/quote]

Sorry to be a cynic but it sounds like normal Italian productivity will not be affected to much

cheers
Rohan[/quote]

You're absolutely right, 764 Lamborghini Miura's, just not enough :D

Oh and I am not even Italian.
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