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PostPost by: john.p.clegg » Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:59 pm

Alea iacta est..

Let's move on.

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PostPost by: billwill » Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:33 pm

Those who 'lost' the right to vote in the referendum had not paid any significant attention to UK politics, they had not voted for at least for 15 years, that's one labour government and one long tory government. And it was world wide note just ex-pats in the EU.

Only when it affects personal finances do they come forward and complain that it is not democratic.

If everyone financially effected by the referendum result was allowed to vote it 'should' have included all the EU citizens (as the EU is losing the UK money pot) all 500 million of them. That would be clearly ridiculous, so I think the 15 year limit was fair.

In fact those EU citizens did get their say in that they had the right to vote in the EU parliamentary elections and the EU parliament could in theory have rejected the UK decision to leave the EU.
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PostPost by: RichC » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:06 pm

yes the Rubicon has been crossed 8)
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PostPost by: JonB » Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:06 am

“But wot about the kids?” has been the cry. (And going back to the previous comment about no one born this century had a say.)

Let them come to voting age, form a movement and vote to return to the EU.
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PostPost by: alan.barker » Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:50 am

EU citizens (as the EU is losing the UK money pot) all 500 million of them.
If you mean the 500 million £ that the EU has been costing the UK.
Most of that is to pay and finance the Embassy in different European Countries. Which were there before the EU and will remain after :wink: :wink:
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PostPost by: elanfan1 » Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:27 am

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PostPost by: billwill » Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:39 am

No I meant 500 million people.
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PostPost by: englishmaninwales » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:14 am

alan.barker wrote:As a british citizen there should be no time limit. For me i recieve a british pension and i want to vote to have some control.
This i have earned and deserve after working many years in England.
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PostPost by: S3FHC » Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:08 am

Hello all,

well it's been almost four weeks since the 'big day' and I was wondering which country is most likely to Leave the EU next?

I have heard of the terms Frexit and Nexit for France and the Netherlands respectively.
However, I'm not aware of the Leave term for Italy for example (or any other EU countries)
So are France and the Netherlands the leading pair?

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PostPost by: UAB807F » Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:46 am

I doubt any other nation will choose to leave, the UK was in an odd position with regards to the EU direction of travel.

We weren't in the euro, we trade quite well with the rest of the world and seemed to have quite a few "opt outs" that others didn't, for example the annual rebate, Schengen, etc.

Having our own currency makes a big difference, I can't see any of the Eurozone nations ever being able to untangle themselves.

Then you have the "contributors vs recipients" situation, you can pretty much guarantee that the recipients won't be leaving. And for Germany, although it's the largest contributor, you can also argue that it gains even more from the union in terms of cheap labour and the closer links to the eastern European states.

So I reckon we're the first and last to leave. And although I'm glad we did, I've always thought that the EU does make a lot of sense if you're on mainland Europe and trade internally, especially if you're one of the smaller nations.

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