Lotus Elan and Lotus Elan Plus 2 Forums

Personally I believe there is the Elan and the Plus 2 ( note not an Elan Plus 2 just a Plus 2)

but I like to keep life simple and I am not into political correctness

cheers
Rohan

rgh0 wrote:Personally I believe there is the Elan and the Plus 2 ( note not an Elan Plus 2 just a Plus 2)

but I like to keep life simple and I am not into political correctness

cheers
Rohan

Hi Rohan,
I don't mind how people describe them or name them. I refer to my Lotus Elan +2S as "The Plus 2" and I refer to my Lotus Elan S4 as the "Elan". That distinguishes them nicely, the people on here who are interested in the history of the +2 will tell you that it was originally called an Elan +2 by Lotus (+2 & +2S), but that the Elan name was dropped from sales literature late in the models history and it became simply the +2 (S130 & S130/5).

So therefore I think you are correct, when you say it's just a Plus 2, only the wing badge on mine says Elan +2 and there's probably loads of offended +2 owners reading this heresy that I've just typed

nebogipfel wrote: Don't worry about off topic, I'm not precious about it

Maybe so...but there are limits!



Cheers - Richard

reb53 wrote:"Baby" sounds like a smaller version of the best, or correct, one.
First came across it years ago, ( pre Interweb), in a Christopher Neil catalogue.
Took a while to figure out what the hell he was on about......

Ralph.

I think you've hit the nail on the head there Ralph, this is the reason 'Baby Elan' upsets so many owners, it implies that it is a smaller, later version of an original Elan.
I've changed my stance on it, not to be tolerated at all. I think anyone using the term from here on should get a punch up the bracket.

That applies to 'Plus Zero' too.

[quote="Spyder fan
Hi Rohan,
I don't mind how people describe them or name them. I refer to my Lotus Elan +2S as "The Plus 2" and I refer to my Lotus Elan S4 as the "Elan". That distinguishes them nicely, the people on here who are interested in the history of the +2 will tell you that it was originally called an Elan +2 by Lotus (+2 & +2S), but that the Elan name was dropped from sales literature late in the models history and it became simply the +2 (S130 & S130/5).

So therefore I think you are correct, when you say it's just a Plus 2, only the wing badge on mine says Elan +2 and there's probably loads of offended +2 owners reading this heresy that I've just typed [/quote]


Its a totally personal opinion but those of us who drive both an Elan and a Plus 2 should have some say and i agree
I call my Elan - Elan and I call my Plus 2 - Plus 2 and I am happy to stick with that and if other want to be different and call it baby this and fat lard arse that I dont really worry about it.

But then I said I am in to reality and logic and technical correctness not polical correctness. Ask me about twin cam race spring valve specs and I will bore you for a few hours because I care about the outcome . Ask me about name of an Elan and you will get a short and sharp repsonse because in the end it does not affect the lap time or driving experience which is what I do care about.

But in the end I enjoy the discussion and its a hobby not a life and death decision

cheers
Rohan

rgh0 wrote:But in the end I enjoy the discussion and its a hobby not a life and death decision

Trouble is, we don't know really who is on the other end of the computer when a discussion is put up....some folks may take this stuff seriously!

Obviously Lotus didn't....

Mark

Some of you guys actually think Lotus made a "Lotus +2" or a "Lotus Plus 2" ?
Are you serious?
Speaking as a Lotus Elan +2 owner I laugh at your non-sensical thinking...

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Eric

There were one or two exceptions Eric!!

Mark

Aye yi yi, proven wrong again! (sshhhhhhh, please don't tell my little yellow +2 she's not an Elan, she'll be broken hearted.)
... and HELLLLLLO Jeff, looks like your job just got 50% easier. Too bad we gotta delete the fun half of the site.

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Eric

Ah, but as with all things Lotus, nothing is certain Eric. There are plenty of examples of the car being called the Elan Plus 2 as well....including the badge on the car!!

Some brochures shows the car referenced with both Lotus Elan Plus 2 and Lotus Plus 2 names. When the 2 seater Elan (perhaps we should call that the 'baby' Elan for clarity) is referenced it is often called the Lotus Elan. I guess that they always wanted to put the 'Lotus' bit in the name, and perhaps thought it was a bit long when it came to the Lotus Elan Plus 2 S 130....drop the 'Elan' bit and the name is a bit more snappy!

Mark

Hi Mark,
Do you work for the government or hold a political office?
Eric

No Eric, just a bloke of leisure.

Mark

So, if I've got this right, and, in order to put this subject to rest (HAH!)
The term baby Elan is a non starter because there is no Elan +2. (at least some of the time?)

nebogibfel wrote:-

"Founding member of the society to eradicate the use of the term Baby Elan by those who really ought to know better "

I could be wrong here but it seems to me you will never eradicate the term if you use it in the sign-off to all of your posts.

oldelanman wrote:nebogibfel wrote:-

"Founding member of the society to eradicate the use of the term Baby Elan by those who really ought to know better "

I could be wrong here but it seems to me you will never eradicate the term if you use it in the sign-off to all of your posts.

You're right! .........Now I face a real conundrum

I ought to have known better