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Re: Team Lotus 60 years ago.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:04 am
by trw99
Bill

Further addtional info here: http://forums.autosport.com/index.php?showtopic=93932

Tim

Re: Team Lotus 60 years ago.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:01 pm
by billwill
Right... Now all is clear, I went to the site of the former Lotus Works in Hornsey yesterday.

Stan Chapman's former Railway Hotel is now an asian (?) restaurant and Funky Brownz bar.
http://www.allinlondon.co.uk/clubs_bars/venue-7075.php
Evidently it did not last long as a pub called The Wishing Well.

The white square that you can just see on the side of the Jewson's building in the Google Street photos is indeed the Colin Chapman memorial plaque.

I took lots of photos and will post them here when I've twiddled their sizes etc.

There is no evidence at all of any plan to convert the site to a Lotus Museum.

Re: Team Lotus 60 years ago.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:37 pm
by billwill
OK, here are the photos of the current state of the buildings that used to be the Lotus Works in Hornsea.

LotusFrontOffice_800.jpg and
Lotus Front Office

LotusFrontOfficeBack_800.jpg and
Rear of Lotus Front Office

ColinChapmanPlaque_800.jpg and
Colin Chapman plaque on front office

ColinChapmanPlaque_detail800.jpg and
Colin Chapman memorial Plaque detail


LotusOriginalBuildingNorth_800.jpg and
North side of the original main building, the stables (?)

LotusOriginalBuildingSouth_800.jpg and
South side of the original main building, the stables (?)


LotusBuildingNearestRailwayNorth_800.jpg and
The Building nearest the Railway (part1)

LotusBuildingNearestRailway_800.jpg and
The Building nearest the Railway (part2)

LotusBuildingNearestRailwaySouth_800.jpg and
The Building nearest the Railway viewed from within Jewson's yard.

Re: Team Lotus 60 years ago.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:40 pm
by billwill
The former hotel belonging to Colin Chapman's father Stan Chapman.
FunkyBrownz_pka_TheRailwayHotel_800.jpg and
The Funky Brownz bar, formerly Stan Chapman's "Railway Hotel" {or possibly "Railway Arms Hotel"}.

This is two photos 'stitched' together.

Re: Team Lotus 60 years ago.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 12:39 am
by billwill
Following up on this theme, does anyone know the exact location of the Cheshunt factory?

Last time I went to Cheshunt I found myself on a ring of roundabouts with to exit from them.

Re: Team Lotus 60 years ago.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:04 pm
by richardcox_lotus
It's next door to (and dwarfed by) Tesco's head office - it's now a gym I believe. There is another thread in autosports TNF forum that has some pics about 2 years ago.

Can't look them up just yet - but do a search for cheshunt.

Regards
Richard

Re: Team Lotus 60 years ago.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:25 pm
by billwill
There is indeed a place called Monster Gym next to Tescos in Delamere Rd, Cheshunt.

Is this the former Lotus Works?

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Delamar ... 85.28,,0,0

Re: Team Lotus 60 years ago.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:29 pm
by SimonH
I dont have it to hand to check but I think thats the place they show in the book I have of the Lotus factory for that era.

The building with the blue panels next door has the Lotus sign on it I think, along with the security guards hut.

Simon

Re: Team Lotus 60 years ago.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:31 am
by ardee_selby
billwill wrote:There is indeed a place called Monster Gym


"Monster Gym"? Max Bygraves springs to mind...as in "Fings ain't what they used t'be"

However, have found another couple of pics.

Is that a rotoflex type coupling on the output shaft? Looks like it and no torque wrench in sight...

Cheers - Richard

Re: Team Lotus 60 years ago.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:21 pm
by ardee_selby
Can't find anything on here...but what do we know about current state of the Lotus Works in Edmonton, North London?

Bill? Anyone?

Re: Team Lotus 60 years ago.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:25 pm
by billwill
Was there a Lotus Works in Edmonton? When was that?

Re: Team Lotus 60 years ago.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:29 pm
by ardee_selby
billwill wrote:Was there a Lotus Works in Edmonton? When was that?


"The new Lotus Elite was still on the drawing board then and Ron (Hickman) was ostensibly employed as a production engineer but at Lotus, who were still at the small Edmonton works"

Ref: http://www.motormarques.com/london-desk ... rth-update

"Lotus, Williams & Pritchard and the Progress Chassis Company were all situated within a stones throw of each other in Edmonton, North London"

Ref: http://www.lotuseleven.co.uk/#/williams ... 4543557353

Re: Team Lotus 60 years ago.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:44 pm
by billwill
I suspect that that article was just a badly researched piece of writing by Carol Corliss , she probably meant the Hornsea works on Tottenham Lane; it's not very far from Edmonton.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&sourc ... =UTF8&z=13

We know that Progress Chassis Company was in the street opposite the Tottenham Lane works.

Something else she wrote: "Fabulous road holding along with the Ford twin cam tuned engine"

Re: Team Lotus 60 years ago.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:22 am
by RogerFrench
The top picture of ardee_selby's post is of a coil-ignition Austin Seven engine and 3-speed gearbox, with the standard fabric coupling that forms the front propshaft u/j of these devices.
Almost certainly not part of any Lotus, but possibly a customer job or even a rebuild of one of the several Sevens that the Lotus crew had at that time.

Re: Team Lotus 60 years ago.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:02 am
by Elanintheforest
Up to and including the Mk 3 Lotus they all had Austin Seven engines. When I say all, it's not on a mass produced scale!

Mark