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Re: Tires again.........

PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 1:54 pm
by nomad
Well, I don't disagree about tire quality but have run the cheapest available on Sprites and Midgets for years without any problems. Their main flaw is longevity and that can vary a lot. For our needs a soft compound is a requisite. Still looking and trying to decide.....

Would love the Vredestein original Qautrac tread pattern if its available. May spring yet for the Pirelli's.

Kurt

Re: Tires again.........

PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 1:57 pm
by nomad
Well, I don't disagree about tire quality but have run the cheapest available on Sprites and Midgets for years without any problems. Their main flaw is longevity and that can vary a lot. For our needs a soft compound is a requisite. Still looking and trying to decide.....

Would love the Vredestein original Qautrac tread pattern if its available. May spring yet for the Pirelli's.

Kurt

Re: Tires again.........

PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 2:00 pm
by nomad
Got to get used to this forum. Didn't appear that the message was posting while I did it in triplicate! :(
Kurt

Re: Tires again.........

PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:41 pm
by ericbushby
Hi Kurt,
Using the `edit` function you can go back and delete a post when you make a mistake or change your mind.
Eric in Burnley

Re: Tires again.........

PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:38 pm
by mbell
nomad wrote:For our needs a soft compound is a requisite.


I can tell you the CN36 have very soft compound. if you read the material on them they say not to run them below freezing as will cause damage to the rubber and may destroy the tread!

On my drive yesterday they were pretty good, I lost traction twice but when I had them at 24PSI which is couple too high. Once doing a brake test (front tire locked) and once coming up a hill out of (dry) low water crossing, where rear broke lose. The break away was very gentle and very controllable with the throttle. There'd been on and off drizzle, so while the road wasn't wet it wasn't bone dry or grippy surface.

After dropping them a couple of PSI they felt a bit better, little better ride and grip. Had no traction issues, wasn't pushing hard on the drive but did go into corner faster than I should and expected to have traction issues but car gripped and went round the corner without fuss.

There is a lot more grip that my ~6 year old modern tires. I suspect much lower tread life but thats not important for miles I cover in the car. At currently pricing these seem like good value and good tire to me, especially against the modern tires available in the US.

Re: Tires again.........

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:40 pm
by nomad
So, is everyone running tubes in their stock type 26 wheels???

Kurt

Re: Tires again.........

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:51 pm
by types26/36
nomad wrote:So, is everyone running tubes in their stock type 26 wheels???Kurt

Cant speak for "everyone" but no, I'm tubeless in my S2 and my Sprint.

Re: Tires again.........

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:05 pm
by StressCraxx
types26/36 wrote:
nomad wrote:So, is everyone running tubes in their stock type 26 wheels???Kurt

Cant speak for "everyone" but no, I'm tubeless in my S2 and my Sprint.


The Michelin XAS - FF 155 13 require tubes.

Re: Tires again.........

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 1:13 am
by nomad
Seems I read somewhere that the Lotus wheels required tubes? They are riveted, aren't they, with a narrow rim to bead ratio????

Kurt

Re: Tires again.........

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:36 am
by StressCraxx
My S3 steel KO wheels easily held air with tubeless tires. Non issue.

Re: Tires again.........

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 7:39 am
by alan.barker
Have a read in Workshop Manuel.
Alan

Re: Tires again.........

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:34 am
by h20hamelan
Tubeless bike rim liners, maybe some sealant if your having a tough go

Re: Tires again.........

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:36 am
by h20hamelan
I will add, tyres mount more easily on original steel, with rims facing down on tyre changing machine

Re: Tires again.........

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:56 am
by 661
StressCraxx wrote:
types26/36 wrote:
nomad wrote:So, is everyone running tubes in their stock type 26 wheels???Kurt

Cant speak for "everyone" but no, I'm tubeless in my S2 and my Sprint.


The Michelin XAS - FF 155 13 require tubes.


Mine don't use tubes ( on Revolution 5 spokes)
https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/michel ... as-ff.html

Re: Tires again.........

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 7:10 am
by nomad
Well, 13" tubes are hard to come by and not cheap so tubeless it is.

Kurt