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template for rack mount shim

PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:47 am
by LaikaTheDog
hi, does anyone have the dimensions or a template for an Elan Plus2 Rack mount Shim ?

Re: template for rack mount shim

PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:29 am
by JonB
Hi Laika

It's just a rectangle of sheet metal, galvanised, with two holes in it that match the rack brackets. No complex shape. The thickness is what's important as I am sure you know.

Cheers

Re: template for rack mount shim

PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:08 pm
by geni
explain to us how to know the thickness to be inserted under the rack?

Re: template for rack mount shim

PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:50 pm
by Frogelan
G?rard,

The thickness of the shims is determined by calculations explained in Brian Buckland's book. Do you have this?

L'?paisseur est d?termin? par de savants calculs qui sont expliqu?s dans le livre de Brian Buckland. As tu ce livre ?


Andrew

Re: template for rack mount shim

PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:23 pm
by LaikaTheDog
I just didn't want to go out in the cold to remove my rad and rack mounts if someone already had the dimensions!

Re: template for rack mount shim

PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:25 pm
by geni
I am in trouble but the book is lent to a friend at 500kms so if a charitable soul would like to copy!

Re: template for rack mount shim

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:32 pm
by LaikaTheDog
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Shim dimensions in mm
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Just in case someone somewhere someday has the same question...

Re: template for rack mount shim

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:20 pm
by nmauduit
I use a slightly different version of the shim by opening the holes towards the nearest side, so that I can add/remove some without taking the whole rack away.

As for the thickness of the shims, I adjust them a bit at a time for bump steer minimization (using a small laser pointer attached to the hub), required accuracy being about 1/10mm requiring a set of shims of various thcknesses so that the combinations would cover the required target (e.g. cut from 0.5mm 0.8mm 1.0mm 1.2mm sheet stock) to avoid spending time grinding off small thin pieces.

Re: template for rack mount shim

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:42 pm
by baileyman
There is an angular range of near linear movement in the geometry that I think people call "neutral bump steer". The shims move the range up or down. I chose to put my range into the bump, supposing toe changes on droop were not so important. Once on the road, though, I'll know for sure.

John