Hub / Bearing Help!
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Hello all,
I've now fitted new bearings to the rear housings including the driveshafts and seemed okay. I have now offered up the hubs but they bottom out on the outer bearings.
Before I have a complete breakdown, I have to ask the question - have I put the inner bearing in the wrong way?
They have the groove for the older o ring and I've put this groove to the inside. Why? Because it seemed to make sense that the sealed face be on the outside, am I correct?
It seems like a possible reason for having a shorter outer shaft length or is my problem something else?
Assuming the bearings are correct, dare I ask if the hub could be machined to avoid touching the bearing (please be gentle with your replies )
Thanks in advance,
Kev
I've now fitted new bearings to the rear housings including the driveshafts and seemed okay. I have now offered up the hubs but they bottom out on the outer bearings.
Before I have a complete breakdown, I have to ask the question - have I put the inner bearing in the wrong way?
They have the groove for the older o ring and I've put this groove to the inside. Why? Because it seemed to make sense that the sealed face be on the outside, am I correct?
It seems like a possible reason for having a shorter outer shaft length or is my problem something else?
Assuming the bearings are correct, dare I ask if the hub could be machined to avoid touching the bearing (please be gentle with your replies )
Thanks in advance,
Kev
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Ummm you did use the thinner early type bearing in the outer end of the shaft/housing? If the hub is bottoming before it sits on the axle taper it suggests that either the shaft hasn't come through far enough (I assume your hubs are type 18 yes?) or the outer bearing is protruding too far. I imagine if a wider type bearing was fitted to the outer side of the hub it could cause this bottoming.....were you able to fit the large circlip on the outer side of the hub?
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Hi Robert,
Yes the bearings (from SJ) are correct and yes it is type 18. All 3 circlips are in place and all seems okay. I should add that the hub almost sits correctly. I covered the shaft with marker pen and contact is made. Also, when I pull the hub off, there is some resistance which means I'm almost there. Is there a set tolerance / gap between hub & bearing?
Kev.
Yes the bearings (from SJ) are correct and yes it is type 18. All 3 circlips are in place and all seems okay. I should add that the hub almost sits correctly. I covered the shaft with marker pen and contact is made. Also, when I pull the hub off, there is some resistance which means I'm almost there. Is there a set tolerance / gap between hub & bearing?
Kev.
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Thanks to all for your replies. I phoned Andy at Spyder who confirmed the bearings were fitted the wrong way round.
I have stripped down both housings and it looks like I've got away with only the offending bearings being written off
This is a hard lesson because beleive it or not I photographed the stripdown and the bearings were in the wrong way to start with - a couple of circlips were missing and no wonder
One to remember, never assume what's already there is right.
Regards,
Kev.
I have stripped down both housings and it looks like I've got away with only the offending bearings being written off
This is a hard lesson because beleive it or not I photographed the stripdown and the bearings were in the wrong way to start with - a couple of circlips were missing and no wonder
One to remember, never assume what's already there is right.
Regards,
Kev.
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hi Kev,
i just thought , how was it possible to fit the shim/dust washer with the bearing the wrong way round. Surely it wasn't possible to fit the circlip to hold the shim/dust washer and bearing in place. It's a good idea to fit a new shim/dust washer because when you remove the old bearing sometimes they get damaged
good luck with the Learning curve working with lotuses
Alan
i just thought , how was it possible to fit the shim/dust washer with the bearing the wrong way round. Surely it wasn't possible to fit the circlip to hold the shim/dust washer and bearing in place. It's a good idea to fit a new shim/dust washer because when you remove the old bearing sometimes they get damaged
good luck with the Learning curve working with lotuses
Alan
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Hi Alan, I must admit to knowing nothing about the shim/dust cover. The bearing were fitted as they came with what seems the shoulder side sealed with the cover and that was my thought that it should go to the outside. If I get time, I will post a photo of the bearings but I will be glad if anyone else can.
Regards,
Kev.
Regards,
Kev.
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Thanks Tony, and yes, Alan is right to say there should be a dirt shield / shim fitted.
Again because there were none fitted on dismantling I assumed none were needed.
So, to re-cap: The bearings to begin with were the wrong way round, half the circlips were missing and no dirt shields fitted
Probably a subject for another thread, but wouldn't it be nice to phone (some) people for parts and for them to ask if you if you have ordered everything required. These are jobs you hopefully won't be doing very often (unlike me!) so as few of us are experts, it's quite likely we forget all the things required.
Rant over
Kev.
Again because there were none fitted on dismantling I assumed none were needed.
So, to re-cap: The bearings to begin with were the wrong way round, half the circlips were missing and no dirt shields fitted
Probably a subject for another thread, but wouldn't it be nice to phone (some) people for parts and for them to ask if you if you have ordered everything required. These are jobs you hopefully won't be doing very often (unlike me!) so as few of us are experts, it's quite likely we forget all the things required.
Rant over
Kev.
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Kev I agree what you say about ordering parts. I ended up with only one new circlip but did get the dust shield. It would be helpful on some items such as wheel bearings to be able to be offered a full kit, this would include all items e.g circlips, bearings, dust shield.
I had no dust shield fitted too.
Tony
I had no dust shield fitted too.
Tony
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