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MG Midget Track Rod ends

PostPost by: terryp » Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:43 pm

Hello
I need to obtain some more toe in than is possible with the Triumph Spitfire track rod ends.
Has anyone used MG Midget ends and if so what type are they as there seems to be three types :?

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Terry
e.g
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRACK-ROD-END ... 3cd0ce0c98
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BEK041-MG-MID ... 589e6347ae
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MG-Midget-Lat ... 53f80b8bd3
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PostPost by: Quart Meg Miles » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:46 pm

Hi Terry,

Check out the topic "Elan tie rod ends" in this section dated 14 April 2013 where various solutions were aired for the toe-in problem. Although Midget ends were mentioned it was only a hearsay.
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PostPost by: terryp » Wed May 01, 2013 7:54 am

Thanks Meg for the reply, I really after confirmation of the hearsay as I want to get the best track rod ends and then start cutting the tie rods!

Anyone with MG Midget track rod ends?

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PostPost by: terryp » Tue May 07, 2013 8:08 am

I managed to get some new old stock QH Midget/Triumph track rod ends so we will see.......
I have a theory that its the shape of the protrution on the top. the later ones are a straight shamfer and the earlier ones are rounded which would mean the rod would go in further?

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PostPost by: terryp » Sat May 18, 2013 7:17 am

I'm right!
Don't cut your tie rods until you have tried old stock track rod ends. Mine are QH type Part No QR15725
I'm nearly there, not quite toe in but I'm not quite at the right ride height yet. It may just be a case of a couple of mm from the new tie rod

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PostPost by: AHM » Sat May 18, 2013 7:42 am

Are you using tracking gauges?

If not how are you measuring toe?

With a tape measure over the top of the rack? What is that actually telling you?
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PostPost by: terryp » Sat May 18, 2013 10:31 am

I'm approximately measuring only at this stage, but it was so far out with the Standard Track rod ends.
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PostPost by: AHM » Sat May 18, 2013 12:01 pm

Hi Terry,

I also couldn't understand why the trackrods were too far apart. Everything checked on the bench - put the rack on the car and it was miles out. Changed the trackrod ends for shorter ones (shorter thread so they screw on further) still miles out - it even looked like the wheels were pointing out. I put the rest of the car together worrying about my stickey outey wheels but had to press-on.

I borrowed some tracking gauges, set to the correct ride height and had to wind them out a bit!

The trackrod ends I bought were new ones for a triumph - from a triumph specialist on ebay, so new, readily available and nothing special.

I think we are all hung-up on trying to measure something which is difficult to measure to the necessary accuracy, and does not translate to what we are actually trying to achieve ie a toe measurement.

My advice is check the new parts against the old to make sure you are in the right ball park then set the tracking by the correct method.
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