Has anyone Yokohamas A021s 185/70/13 on their +2?

PostPost by: peterako » Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:11 pm

Hi Innes,

How are you?

I never put Yoko's on my +2, though could be tempted in the future.

I have Vredestien Sprint 80's on the back and Hankook Optima's on the rest. All 165/80 13's.

I found the Vredestiens great when I had them on all four wheels. Good wet and very good dry traction and handling.

Had a nightmare when I put the Hankooks on to replace two worn Vredestiens. Initially they went on the back...and the car drove like the back was on ice....the back was all over the place.

I then put them on the front and hey presto....all was well again :?

This COULD have been due to badly worn rear bearings (which I have since changed) but the Vreds were fine on the back....the Hankooks not......in a simple swap.

Would gladly go back to Vredestiens all round again when the time comes, or maybe try the Yoko's...

I use my car as an all year round daily driver.

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PostPost by: Foxie » Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:57 pm

peterako wrote:Had a nightmare when I put the Hankooks on to replace two worn Vredestiens. Initially they went on the back...and the car drove like the back was on ice....the back was all over the place.

I then put them on the front and hey presto....all was well again :?

This COULD have been due to badly worn rear bearings (which I have since changed) but the Vreds were fine on the back....the Hankooks not......in a simple swap.
Peter

Lethal to mix tyres on the same axle. Not very wise to fit different tyres front and back. As your experience plainly shows, they do behave differently :mrgreen:
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PostPost by: peterako » Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:40 pm

Hi Se?n,

How life with the posh car?

I'm pretty happy with the handling as is at the moment, and the Optimas seem to provide good braking stickiness :)

It's worked out pretty well.

May be calling you in a short while to discuss engines.

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PostPost by: terryp » Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:14 pm

Hello
My car is now sold and the 185 yokos went with it! They were very nice, they may even be on the car now, if I hear anything about them from the new owner I will post.

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PostPost by: innesw » Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:25 pm

Hi,
Thanks for the info, my options at the moment are the for the folowing tyres,

?Per Corner .Inc VAT

Michelin XAS FF 165HR13 ?191.40

Michelin XAS 165HR13 ?179.40

Dunlop SP Sport's 165HR13 ?150.66 (have 5 of these on the alloys which are over 31 years old!)

Vredestein Sprint + 165/80R13 ?55.13

Yokohama A021S 185/70R13 Waiting on a quote, couldn't find any online deals... Also found A021R :lol: !

Pirelli P3000 165/80R13 ?47.10

Goodyear Duragrip 165/80R13 ?44.60

Would be nice to put either the Dunlop's or Michelin on but trying to justify the price is hard, I've got the original rear springs and seats so I don't know if I could get by with 185's, trawled through everything in the archives on tyres. Any other recommendations?

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PostPost by: Foxie » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:53 pm

peterako wrote:Hi Se?n,
How life with the posh car?

Hibernating at the moment. Got it registered with a nice new number, F 8TS 612. Decode that ! Busy rebuilding the rear left corner of Foxie, just cosmetics left.
May be calling you in a short while to discuss engines.
Peter

No prob :mrgreen:
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PostPost by: Galwaylotus » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:16 pm

innesw wrote:Hi,
Thanks for the info, my options at the moment are the for the folowing tyres,

?Per Corner .Inc VAT
Dunlop SP Sport's 165HR13 ?150.66 (have 5 of these on the alloys which are over 31 years old!)

Would be nice to put either the Dunlop's or Michelin on but trying to justify the price is hard, Innes


31 year old wheels are one thing but 31 year old tyres, no matter how much tread remains and how good they look, are likely to be lethal! Rubber degrades with time and delamination at even moderate road speeds may have catastrophic results. Tyres more than 10 years old should not be driven on any vehicle. If a Lotus owner doesn't care about his own safety, then at least think of the damage to the car!!! :shock:
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PostPost by: lotuselan2 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:53 pm

I currently have old Michelin XAS 185/70 13 on the original center lock wheels. I have just started to autocross the car and the tires have no grip for the task; they have been great on the road and in the rain.

So I am contemplating second set of wheels and tires. I thought the only option was the Panasport wheels which are 13x5". that leaves me with the Yoko A021 as my most likely choice tire. However, I just recently found out that Minilite make 14x5 and 14x5.5 that supposed to fit the car. There are a lot more options of tires in 14". Will these 14" Minilites fit the car and what size tires will fit? I have a good list of tire types already for them.
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PostPost by: lotuselan2 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:01 pm

I just went on Yoko web site and they do not show the A021S or R tire. They only seem to have the A048 now. The closest size they have is 185/60/13. Are the A021's still available or only out of old stock?
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PostPost by: terryp » Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:47 pm

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PostPost by: elan_fan » Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:00 am

And George Polley who I believe is the cheapest anywhere.

http://www.polleymotorsport.co.uk/polle ... r=Yokohama
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PostPost by: terryp » Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:21 am

I believe it is the "control tyre" for UK oval racing, If you have a Seven you can get them even cheaper! :wink:

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PostPost by: Uboat » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:44 am

I bought A021 185/70/13 from Camskills this winter and I tested them on the road yesterday. No problems at all with clearance on my +2. I had michelin energy 175/70/13 on last year.
The yokos are much wider, because of the width and because the profile is rectangular compared to energy tyres who are more U-shaped in profile. I expected heavy steering, but I hardly noticed any difference...
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PostPost by: innesw » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:11 pm

Thanks for the information Ulf, do you have standard rear springs or the small diameter adjustable ones?

Looks like Yokohama have stopped producing the "S" and only the "R" is avaliable now...

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PostPost by: Uboat » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:05 pm

Hi Innes, I have adjustable TTRs in front and original wide springs in the rear. Ride height is set with 5-6 cm in gap between tyre and body
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