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Disc Brake Upgrade

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:32 pm
by Bob
I have been look around for information on brake upgrades, my understanding is the +2 brakes and clipers will fit. i also understand that these are Triumph parts from GT6 if this is the case I have had a look at Canley Classic they have some groved and drilled GT6 discs
http://www.canleyclassics.com/catalogue ... cale=small
Has anybody tried them? At ?53 per pair does not seem to bad.
Bob

Re: Disc Brake Upgrade

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:41 pm
by CBUEB1771
Bob,
You should go through Rotoflexible's thread:
elan-f14/plus-two-brakes-with-bolt-hubs-t17457.html
Much of what you need to know is covered here.

Re: Disc Brake Upgrade

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:00 pm
by dougweall
Bob,

I looked at the web site which Gary Anderson mentioned in the "Elan Flairs - Good, Bad etc"

http://www.elanrebuild.com/index.html

In the brakes section the grooved discs you mentioned were used. I was thinking about emailing to ask the same question you posted, but as yet not got to it.

Doug.

P.S. Have just sent an email so await a reply.

Re: Disc Brake Upgrade

PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:46 am
by Bob
Tks Both

Re: Disc Brake Upgrade

PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:34 pm
by chequeredflagracingjoe
Hi I have the 26r conversion kit if you are interested? Check it out. thanks Joe

Re: Disc Brake Upgrade

PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:10 pm
by Elan45
Bob,

I keep wondering about topics like this and wondering if the individuals wanting to do conversions such as this have actually driven a correctly functioning Elan. I can remember driving my SS and my FHC years ago when the rear calipers were frozen or nearly so, and what lack of brakes that was. I've also have had the pads at the front be too tall so that they didn't wear all across the face of the pad, built up a little ridge at the top that eventually grew together and the pads touched each other outside the disc. Great confidence builder that!

But as a general rule, standard Elan brakes are wonderful for street use, when they're in good condition. If you are actually racing, larger brakes might be of some benefit. But I would think that for 90% of the Elan owners on this list, normal Elan brakes in good condition are fine.

Roger

Re: Disc Brake Upgrade

PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:05 pm
by paddy
You're also adding a lot of unsprung weight.

Paddy

Re: Disc Brake Upgrade

PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:56 am
by rgh0
Elan45 wrote:Bob,

I keep wondering about topics like this and wondering if the individuals wanting to do conversions such as this have actually driven a correctly functioning Elan. .

Roger


I agree that for road use the Elans standard setup is more than adequate in any circumstance.
For race use with use of top quality pads and disks they are also more than adequate on all tracks I compete on, even those with extreme brake usage. They certainly get to the limit of temperatures in these circumstances but a big brake upgrade is not mandatory.

In the end its a personal choice but if looking for reduced effort I would add a booster to the standard brakes rather than fit plus 2 brakes
cheers
Rohan

Re: Disc Brake Upgrade

PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:25 pm
by CBUEB1771
rgh0 wrote:In the end its a personal choice but if looking for reduced effort I would add a booster to the standard brakes rather than fit plus 2 brakes


Rohan,
You are a brave man to suggest installation of a servo on this forum. BTW, I happen to agree with you.

Re: Disc Brake Upgrade

PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:17 pm
by jkatthehelm
Depending how original you want to be these are great value and work brilliantly. They were developed for Caterhams and so bolt straight on.
http://www.hispecbrake.co.uk/Start%20ultralite_4.htm
They are routinely used with Elise S1 pads, and with a little fettling to the back plate Plus 2 pads fit, giving max friction area on std discs and reduction in unsprung weight - they weigh <900gms each. I have them fitted, great pedal feel and stopping power. Use with std M/C.
James