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PostPost by: hat » Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:31 pm

This is a bit of a mystery at the moment so I thought there might be some valuable tips out there.

The brake master cylinder emptied itself into the footwell and I therefore lost the brakes. I felt the best move was to replace it. Installed the new one, bled the brakes, all back to normal.

A week later its done it again although this time there is no brake fluid in the footwell. Theres no brake fliud on the garage floor either and I still have no brakes.

Any ideas????
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PostPost by: berni29 » Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:55 pm

Hi There

My friend bought a plus2. Driving back he lost his brakes. No fluid in the resovoir. We filled it up, bled the brakes, but no brakes. It was all ending up in the servo.

Thats my guess.

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PostPost by: nebogipfel » Sat Feb 26, 2005 8:19 pm

Yep, Servo!
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PostPost by: hat » Sat Feb 26, 2005 10:05 pm

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Thanks for that,

Is there a remedy or is it new servo time??
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PostPost by: Si_130/5 » Sun Feb 27, 2005 4:59 pm

Hi, I'm the 'friend who lost his brakes' that berni29 mentioned. All the fluid from the reservoir ended up in the servo. Sadly the Girling servo used on the Plus Two (Girling MkII B 7") is no longer available. The options are - (i) Buy the Lockheed replacement at ?165, discard the original mounting bracket and bolt it face down onto the inner wing or (ii) get the original reconditioned. I've had quotes for this ranging from ?200 to ?330 incl vat. The overhaul kit costs ?120 plus vat. Is your car a late model?
If you can find cheaper prices do let us know.
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PostPost by: nebogipfel » Sun Feb 27, 2005 6:52 pm

Hi All,

Yes, why are servos and recon' kits so expensive?

You could always remove it completely of course but you'll need big strong legs (right one anyway) :)

Seriously, I would also be interested if anyone on the forum has found an inexpensive solution to the servo problem.

It's a pity all the modern ones are on the master cylinder
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PostPost by: flyinggellyfish » Sun Feb 27, 2005 7:26 pm

I am in the process of rebuilding my servo (Mk2 A) it is not that difficult to do . Just patience and cleanliness are esential . Rebuild kit was ?45 (I think) . I do have a spare Mk2 B I could sell to you . It was recon when I bought it but do not know now as been in storage a while . Drop me an email if interested .

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PostPost by: pereirac » Sun Feb 27, 2005 9:57 pm

Try Norton Brake Services, he sells very affordable rebuild kit and will also rebuild your old servo for a realistic price.

Carl

P.s. If you leave out the little ball bearing when you rebuild your servo the brake pedal pushes back when you try to brake... I discovered this the hard way many years ago.
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PostPost by: pereirac » Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:01 pm

Just a thought...
Not all rebuild kits come with a new rubber diaphram these days so check and see if you need one first. They are about an extra ?20.
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PostPost by: DOC » Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:07 am

I have at least one NOS servo rebuild kit (SP 2625/4 includes diaphram) and lots of other +2 parts that I would like to sell since I don't think I will ever get another one. Email me for a complete list.

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PostPost by: hat » Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:51 pm

Thanks for all your advice and help much appreciated.

I contacted various people for either a new, reconditioned or overhaul mine, servo.

Norton Brakes stood out by a mile. Very helpful and happy to fit in with my time frame and budget. I am quite satisfied that there isnt a cheap solution to a servo needing repair. Frankly, from a safety perspective there probably shouldnt be.

Thanks again
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