+2 steering rack in baby elan

PostPost by: sk178ta » Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:15 am

Am I right in thinking that the rack on a baby Elan is the same as a +2 apart from the track rods...............or not?
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PostPost by: types26/36 » Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:55 am

Yes, I fitted a +2 rack in my S2 after changing the tie rods. (track rods)
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PostPost by: rgh0 » Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:25 am

As far as I am aware all you need to do is take the extensions of the plus 2 tie rods, the rest is the same.

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PostPost by: ppnelan » Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:55 am

Hi Jim ! :)

I asked about this a while back - see
http://www.lotuselan.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1445

There seem to be a lot of steering racks about with 'home-made' limit spacers (e.g. on eBay). The number of turns seems to vary considerably from the 'standard' spec. Just make sure you don't get an unmodified Triumph Herald one as it will turn far tooooo sharply :shock:

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PostPost by: types26/36 » Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:16 am

I think some +2's were fitted with the extentsion on the tie rod and some had a longer tie rod, Dave Beans book lists a:
a 6" tie rod (Elan)
a 7" tie rod ((Europa,+2, Seven)
and also the tie rod extensions (+2)
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PostPost by: M100 » Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:04 pm

There seem to be a lot of steering racks about with 'home-made' limit spacers (e.g. on eBay). The number of turns seems to vary considerably from the 'standard' spec. Just make sure you don't get an unmodified Triumph Herald one as it will turn far tooooo sharply


Hmm, wasn't the original application the Herald/Spitfire which was then modified for the Elan purely by the addition of the travel limiting spacers and the tie rod shortening/threading? By turning far too sharply do you mean the ratio was changed as I can't say I've seen any mention of that before (and I'm sure that's what Robinshaw and Ross also say)
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PostPost by: ppnelan » Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:49 pm

Martin, yes!! :wink:

With
M100 wrote:...the addition of the travel limiting spacers...

the maximum steering angle of the wheels will be reduced, so if you DON'T have these spacers fitted then the rack and therefore wheels will move too far. The tyres will contact the body or chassis/antiroll bar (maybe) with unpleasant results.... :cry:

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PostPost by: ppnelan » Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:50 pm

Just to clarify, the RATIO of the steering rack is NOT changed, only the travel.

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PostPost by: types26/36 » Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:57 pm

M100 wrote:
Hmm, wasn't the original application the Herald/Spitfire which was then modified for the Elan purely by the addition of the travel limiting spacers and the tie rod shortening/threading? )


I think that is true but there was several version's of the Spitfire... Mark 1/2/3/4 and a GT6. I dont know but maybe some of these versions had different ratio's ?
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PostPost by: M100 » Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:15 pm

I had a plough through the Moss Spitfire/Herald/GT6 parts books a few months ago and while the basic assembly looked similar there seemed to be a lot of variants available on the racks and pinions (I never checked the steering arms) indicating some design differences.
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