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Look what I found

PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:29 pm
by seniorchristo
I am replacing my sump because it has a hole in it so I dropped it down and found this arrangement.. It is a swiveling oil pickup secured by mounting to the front and center main bearing caps. I know Dave Bean has something similar in his catalog. Probably overkill on a street engine.

Re: Look what I found

PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:08 pm
by StressCraxx
It's not overkill. It's well designed and works as advertised, even for a street Elan that is driven like intended. The windage tray helps reduce the pumping losses and the swinging pickup keeps your oil pump and bearings well supplied.

If you don't want it, please let me know. I'll take it off your hands.

Regards,
Dan

Re: Look what I found

PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:07 pm
by h20hamelan
i would take two please, and maybe a third in case one fails

does it follow lateral forces? going around a LH corner, will it swap to the left side of the sump? and visa versa!

Re: Look what I found

PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:17 pm
by seniorchristo
According to Bean it follows centrifugal force and gravity hence it follows the oil.

Re: Look what I found

PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:39 am
by rgh0
A nice setup and the first time I have actually seen a photograph of the mythical Dave Bean swinging pickup

Unfortunately while Bean has it in the catalogue it has not been available for over 30 years which is a pity.

cheers
Rohan

Re: Look what I found

PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:58 am
by Certified Lotus
Besides the very cool oil pick up, I?ve noted the well done safety wiring job. Somebody built an engine to good specs.

Re: Look what I found

PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 3:05 pm
by Elan45
Obviously, this has become a weld the hole in the sump and replace. I also see if you've managed to get the sump completely off the engine, you must have a removable crossbrace. I'll bet there are other trick bits to your car.
Oh, and if you decide to go back to stock oil pick-up, I'll be happy to take it off your hands, I'll even figure out how to pick it up. But I really think you should keep it for yourself. You might also figure out how to copy it and make a bunch of copies.

Roger

Re: Look what I found

PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:43 pm
by tvacc
I also have it on one of my Elans. I am not sure it is the Bean version as this car was built by Spyder in the UK. But it is a swinging pickup. Next time I have it off the car, I will look into having it reproduced.

Tony V

Re: Look what I found

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:22 pm
by h20hamelan
Is a baffled pan as adequate
For fun street, actually. The motto here is. Find out where the limits are, and start from there.

Re: Look what I found

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:50 pm
by Craven
Those with a loss of oil pressure complex, have you seen this type of thing, seems a very simple solution.
https://www.demon-tweeks.com/uk/canton- ... er-500619/

Re: Look what I found

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:55 pm
by seniorchristo
Roger
I tried patching the hole a couple of times with epoxy. It would hold for a while but eventually the epoxy cracked and would leak again profusely. I added the removable brace, a piece of steel channel from McMaster car that adds .9 pounds of weight :( I have a used sump I'm putting on but just realized my 711 block requires wider rubber strips to seal the ends of sump. I'm going to leave "swinger" in place for the time being.
Chris :)

Re: Look what I found

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:15 pm
by h20hamelan
Thou most dont realize
Everyone wants a ?swinger?

Re: Look what I found

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:16 pm
by JonB
Craven wrote:Those with a loss of oil pressure complex, have you seen this type of thing, seems a very simple solution.
https://www.demon-tweeks.com/uk/canton- ... er-500619/


Seems a very expensive solution.. but for racing, fine.

Re: Look what I found

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:19 pm
by h20hamelan
https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/ctr-24-006

They are quality
1/2 the price of the UK/EU for Canada

Re: Look what I found

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:20 pm
by Craven
Not if you cost in engine removal, sump modification etc. it requires just a single connection to the oil gallery and you?re done.