Advice, good ideas needed, PLEASE HELP!
15 posts
• Page 1 of 1
...........had to pull the engine to finally get rid of an oil leek:
a) step 1: the usual emptying of liquids
b) head off and thereafter the block out: easier this way
c) besides the point: head now also has proper valve clearance on EX side (0,28 Ex +/- 0,05 mm)
d) reassembled everything, turning of the engine with cams etc. was normal with a wrench
e) put the engine back in with no problems and added fluids etc..
e1) clutch pedal needs a bit more power than before
f) started to retrieve oil pressure
g) HOWEVER: the starter only turned 3-4 revolutions and immediately lost power
h) we tried a very large powerful (12V) battery and it wouldn't turn as it should
i) turning the engine via crank with a wrench (spanner, excuse me) also requires much more force than before
g) the starter is and turns as normal when out of the car??
i) the relais (solenoid) works --- but could consume power??
j) clutch takes/needs more pedal pressure
k) you can't hear anything and the valves don't touch the pistons
l) i have about 1:11,3 compression
PLEASE add your ideas, i have some ideas but i'll add them later: not to influence you: THANKS IN ADVANCE sandy
a) step 1: the usual emptying of liquids
b) head off and thereafter the block out: easier this way
c) besides the point: head now also has proper valve clearance on EX side (0,28 Ex +/- 0,05 mm)
d) reassembled everything, turning of the engine with cams etc. was normal with a wrench
e) put the engine back in with no problems and added fluids etc..
e1) clutch pedal needs a bit more power than before
f) started to retrieve oil pressure
g) HOWEVER: the starter only turned 3-4 revolutions and immediately lost power
h) we tried a very large powerful (12V) battery and it wouldn't turn as it should
i) turning the engine via crank with a wrench (spanner, excuse me) also requires much more force than before
g) the starter is and turns as normal when out of the car??
i) the relais (solenoid) works --- but could consume power??
j) clutch takes/needs more pedal pressure
k) you can't hear anything and the valves don't touch the pistons
l) i have about 1:11,3 compression
PLEASE add your ideas, i have some ideas but i'll add them later: not to influence you: THANKS IN ADVANCE sandy
- el-saturn
- Coveted Fifth Gear
- Posts: 1374
- Joined: 27 Jun 2012
I may well be talking toss but going by your "mechanical " symptoms -
e1) clutch pedal needs a bit more power than before
i) turning the engine via crank with a wrench (spanner, excuse me) also requires much more force than before
g) the starter is and turns as normal when out of the car??
i) the relais (solenoid) works --- but could consume power??
j) clutch takes/needs more pedal pressurei
I would suggest a misalignment between the engine and the box.
As I think Grizzly was suggesting
Vince
e1) clutch pedal needs a bit more power than before
i) turning the engine via crank with a wrench (spanner, excuse me) also requires much more force than before
g) the starter is and turns as normal when out of the car??
i) the relais (solenoid) works --- but could consume power??
j) clutch takes/needs more pedal pressurei
I would suggest a misalignment between the engine and the box.
As I think Grizzly was suggesting
Grizzly wrote: and did you notice if the Dowels where present between the engine and box?
Vince
- vincereynard
- Coveted Fifth Gear
- Posts: 1240
- Joined: 12 Jan 2015
Could the crankshaft spigot bearing have siezed or been damaged when mating the engine and gearbox?
- steve.thomas
- Second Gear
- Posts: 123
- Joined: 24 Jun 2010
THANKS FELLAS!! ................not being a masochist, i was hoping for: answers/ideas which were contrary to my own conclusions. they weren't!! i didn't ever have those dowels and never needed them. we were 3 people (or 3 mp for monkey power) making stuff go quickly, instead of cautiuosly - WHAT ELSE may be broken??? it turned 10 times (3 revolutions per trial) altogether! if it's only the spigot, then (other than the 5hrs!!) its OK tx sandy
- el-saturn
- Coveted Fifth Gear
- Posts: 1374
- Joined: 27 Jun 2012
Sounds to me like something broken in the gear box, bulk ring seized on a gear cone?
Can you shift all gears?
Or clutch arm misplaced? but in that case you would likely have nasty noises.
Disconnect the prop shaft and see if it turns then.
The old chestnut of the driven plate the wrong way round is hard to do these days.
Jon the Chief
Can you shift all gears?
Or clutch arm misplaced? but in that case you would likely have nasty noises.
Disconnect the prop shaft and see if it turns then.
The old chestnut of the driven plate the wrong way round is hard to do these days.
Jon the Chief
- oldchieft
- Third Gear
- Posts: 408
- Joined: 17 Sep 2013
Could the 'D' spacer link have fallen out of place between the clutch TO bearing and the arm and fallen into an interference between flywheel and something rigid like engine block.
Roger
Roger
'67 Elan S3 SS DHC
'67 Elan FHC pre-airflow
'67 Elan S3 SE upgrade to 26R by Original owner
'58 Eleven S2 (ex-works)
'62 20/22 FJ (ex-Yamura)
'70 Elan +2S RHD
'61 20 FJ project
'76 Modus M1 F3
'67 Elan FHC pre-airflow
'67 Elan S3 SE upgrade to 26R by Original owner
'58 Eleven S2 (ex-works)
'62 20/22 FJ (ex-Yamura)
'70 Elan +2S RHD
'61 20 FJ project
'76 Modus M1 F3
- Elan45
- Coveted Fifth Gear
- Posts: 2518
- Joined: 23 Nov 2008
i hate to admit: while talking to my mechanic friend (engine on a kart) and unaware of camshaft tolerances, i just added maybe another kg of torque (2,2 vs 1,2) because it felt wrong. while the engine was out i looked into the manual and noticed: why don't u a-hole don't u look where others know!!! i hate myself sometimes sandy ---- did u see my latest issue: mayonaise!!!!!!
- el-saturn
- Coveted Fifth Gear
- Posts: 1374
- Joined: 27 Jun 2012
15 posts
• Page 1 of 1
Total Online:
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 31 guests