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Removing Lock Barrel from steering Column Lock

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:00 pm
by Bodmin
Does anyone know how to remove the lock barrel from a Sprint steering column lock?

I have the key, but can’t see an easy way of removing the lock barrel.

The lock barrel is well worn, hence my desire to replace with a new one. That being said I can see distinct advantages of replacing it with a dash mounted ignition switch.

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Re: Removing Lock Barrel from steering Column Lock

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:03 pm
by billwill
Is there a circlip holding the barrel in its tube?

Re: Removing Lock Barrel from steering Column Lock

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:15 pm
by Bodmin
billwill wrote:Is there a circlip holding the barrel in its tube?


Not that I can see.

Re: Removing Lock Barrel from steering Column Lock

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:05 pm
by pharriso
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I have 2 spare Waso ignition locks, 1 without a key & 1 with a key & would like to know how to dis-assemble myself so I can clean the lock / re-key them.

I suspect that the 2 roll pins circled below are involved somehow:
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Re: Removing Lock Barrel from steering Column Lock

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:19 pm
by pharriso
Bodmin wrote:The lock barrel is well worn, hence my desire to replace with a new one. That being said I can see distinct advantages of replacing it with a dash mounted ignition switch.


Like what? You would lose the steering column lock...

Re: Removing Lock Barrel from steering Column Lock

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:47 pm
by Bodmin
pharriso wrote:
Bodmin wrote:The lock barrel is well worn, hence my desire to replace with a new one. That being said I can see distinct advantages of replacing it with a dash mounted ignition switch.


Like what? You would lose the steering column lock...


I would wire a conventional switch on the dash as per S4. Never liked fumbling around with the steering column lock. That being said I could re-install the mechanical parts of the steering column lock to give the option of locking the steering.

However..I believe more steering column in/out adjustment is available if there is no requirement to engage the lock into the upper column. Another benefit would be less clutter making it easier to access various items in that area behind the dash.

Re: Removing Lock Barrel from steering Column Lock

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:42 am
by billwill
Does anyone know which car the steering lock was originally made for.

Searching internet forums for that car might be useful.

Re: Removing Lock Barrel from steering Column Lock

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:09 pm
by Bodmin
billwill wrote:Does anyone know which car the steering lock was originally made for.

Searching internet forums for that car might be useful.


Good idea, but I haven’t uncovered the mystery yet! No idea which car it was manufactured for. No success on the Triumph forums either.

Re: Removing Lock Barrel from steering Column Lock

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:40 pm
by billwill
I have just had a search too without luck. Triumph TR6 later version seems the likeliest candidate.

I found that a lot of steering locks are made by NIEMAN, but did not locate one that looks like your picture.

Re: Removing Lock Barrel from steering Column Lock

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:47 pm
by billwill
If the roll pins shown in one of the postings above are evident (or a little hole in those kind of locations) try pressing both simultaneously with a pointed object with the key in the lock, rotate the key to see if there is a point at which the pins depress. If that happens pull the lock barrel out through the front ?

Re: Removing Lock Barrel from steering Column Lock

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:04 pm
by pharriso
billwill wrote:Does anyone know which car the steering lock was originally made for.

Searching internet forums for that car might be useful.


Also used on E-Type Series III, there's a bit of info here - https://www.google.com/search?q=waso+ignition+lock+site%3Aforums.jag-lovers.com&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS953US953&oq=waso&aqs=chrome.1.69i59l2j46i131i433i512j0i131i433i512j0i512j69i60j69i61j69i60.5060j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

But no cigar :roll:

Re: Removing Lock Barrel from steering Column Lock

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:09 pm
by pharriso
billwill wrote:I found that a lot of steering locks are made by NIEMAN, but did not locate one that looks like your picture.

This lock was made by WASO

Re: Removing Lock Barrel from steering Column Lock

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:56 pm
by Bodmin
Some success to report.

I used a rotary wire wheel to remove the paint around the two small holes which revealed it is indeed two tiny roll pins that we’re dealing with. Obviously they’re not designed to be pulled out, so on that basis I pushed them in a few mm using a 1.5mm punch. This allowed the gubbins to be released.

I haven’t gone further yet, but at least I’m back into more familiar territory.

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Re: Removing Lock Barrel from steering Column Lock

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:39 pm
by pharriso
Awesome! Well done that man!

I was about to try drilling them out, pushing them in further is much easier :D

Will try to reproduce your success a little later.

Re: Removing Lock Barrel from steering Column Lock

PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:15 pm
by Bodmin
Just as a small reminder to anyone embarking on this project (myself included), there is a very small pin which falls out while removing the barrel.

I only discovered it after the event laying on the workbench. The pin is approx 1.5mm dia x 5 mm long. It is a pivot for the lever which controls the locking shaft.

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