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Instrument lights

PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:43 pm
by The Veg
Am I correct to guess that they're not supposed to be this dim? This is with 12.3-12.4V at the battery and 11.6V at the lamp. I can not discern any light from the lamp making it to visibility in the face of the instrument.

Re: Instrument lights

PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:22 pm
by MarkDa
Check the earth/ground path?

Re: Instrument lights

PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:31 pm
by The Veg
Earth seems good, and I even scrubbed the contact areas for the lamp holder and the corresponding surface of the instrument. Since I haven't dealt with this type of lamp before I'm not sure how bright they should be.

Re: Instrument lights

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:28 am
by billwill
It may be worn out with age, but if you have checked all connections it is far more likely that it was intended for a higher voltage such as 18 or 24 volts.

Re: Instrument lights

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:46 am
by MarkDa
To answer your specific question, Yes the light should be brother than that.

Re: Instrument lights

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:01 am
by alan.barker
The earths are rings fitted to the studs that hold the instruments in place. On the studs there are little knurled nuts that can need tightening with your fingers. The earths are a daisy chain.
Alan

Re: Instrument lights

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:03 pm
by gjz30075
Ben, what's the bulb type you're using?

Re: Instrument lights

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:09 am
by The Veg
Fairly certain that it's an E10 base but I can't make out any of the microscopic markings on it. Looks like what flashlights used in the old days.

Re: Instrument lights

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:58 am
by Chrispy
Mine are a lot brighter than that, and give enough light to read the instruments at night (just!)

Re: Instrument lights

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:43 am
by JonB
Remove the bulb and connect it straight to the battery. If it is still dim, you know it's faded with age. If it's bright, you know your wiring is suspect.

Re: Instrument lights

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:16 am
by EPA
It?s worth noting that these bulbs are rated to cope with the voltage with the engine running which is likely to be a couple of volts higher and the bulbs would be brighter. Having said that I would invest in some led bulbs which would potentially provide a stronger light. I have these in my speedo and tachometer and have been a great improvement
I would agree with Jon B that connecting the bulbs directly to the battery would prove if you have a bad connection.
Ed

Re: Instrument lights

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:45 pm
by The Veg
Yeah LED is ony radar. Will probably do that since they're such a pig to access once the dashboard is all in.

Re: Instrument lights

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:26 pm
by billwill
A multimeter, Ohms, Volts, Amps is as important a tool as a socket set for classic cars.

So if you haven't got one.. Buy a multimeter as soon as practical. they are really inexpensive nowadays.

You would have a definitive answer to your dim bulb problem in just a few minutes with a volt meter.

Re: Instrument lights

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:22 am
by The Veg
See my post up top. The question isn't whether or not the voltage and earth are good- they've already been checked; less than 1 volt drop from battery to lamp socket and the dashboard earths are connected straight to the battery via jumper cable. The question is whether the lamp should be so dim, because I have no prior experience with these. I think the answer is 'no' at this point, so I'm looking at some LEDs so I won't have to go in after them again for a while.

Re: Instrument lights

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:38 am
by mbell
It does look dim to me but very hard to tell in photos. Does the bulb have a wattage rating? Or can you measure it's resistance?

That should confirm if it is the right bulb or not. Maybe a mute point thou if going to go to LEDs...