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Quick way to check the voltage stabiliser

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:58 am
by JonB
Morning all

I have a failed coolant temperature gauge and was mucking around trying to test the connectivity. One of the Thing I tried was to hook up a light bulb between ground and the sender wire. The bulb started flashing. I take it this means my voltage controller is working (perhaps not to tolerance, but doing something). Is that right? If so, it's a really quick way to rule out the controller when the fuel / temperature gauges start acting up.

(The temperature gauge started reading something when the bulb was connected so there is no problem with it or the wiring. I ordered a new sender.)

Re: Quick way to check the voltage stabiliser

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:14 am
by Chancer
Yes, it proves that it is switching and if you use an analogue multimeter with a damped display you can get a better idea of the average voltage, the flash rate and duration of your test bulb does the same to an experienced eye.

Re: Quick way to check the voltage stabiliser

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:10 pm
by billwill
I can't think of any easy way to check the calibration of the stabilizer, other than use an oscilloscope to observer the pulse width of the flash then take that as a ratio of the full interval between flashes and multiply by the observed output voltage at the top square bit of the pulses.

Or get a big capacitor, put it across your test bulb then measure the voltage across the bulb.

Re: Quick way to check the voltage stabiliser

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:37 am
by alan.barker
Is the Fuel Gauge working :roll:
It's also feed from the Voltage Stabiliser
Alan

Re: Quick way to check the voltage stabiliser

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:05 am
by JonB
Yes it is.

However, it only ever registers just over 1/2 full when the tank is filled. There is something going on...

Re: Quick way to check the voltage stabiliser

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:25 am
by JohnP
You only really need to know when it is getting a bit empty.

Re: Quick way to check the voltage stabiliser

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:02 am
by JonB
JohnP wrote:You only really need to know when it is getting a bit empty.


That's true but you do need to be able to trust what it is saying when it is nearing empty.

Re: Quick way to check the voltage stabiliser

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:11 am
by john.p.clegg
JohnP wrote:You only really need to know when it is getting a bit empty.


Isn't there a red idiot light for that...

John :wink:

Re: Quick way to check the voltage stabiliser

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:15 am
by JonB
Doesn't work... :lol: ..or maybe I have never been truly empty?

Re: Quick way to check the voltage stabiliser

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:49 pm
by nigelrbfurness
Could be a fault with the tank sender or the gauge. Easiest to try another gauge, I would think.

Re: Quick way to check the voltage stabiliser

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:52 pm
by JonB
Ah.

Unwrapping the insulation from the loom in the boot and checking the wiring diagram reveals that the low fuel switch connection (on the right hand side of the sender) is actually connected to ground. The correct wire (black/brown) was tucked away under the insulation and cut short. I've reconnected it but testing the circuit (by grounding the sensor wire) does not give a light on the dash (it's on the speedometer in red), so I'll have to investigate further.

On the plus side, though, I found the boot light +ve wire (purple) in there, plus a spare ground and some 240v mains 2 core flex (!!) - dunno what that is for, yet. Speaker, perhaps.

Re: Quick way to check the voltage stabiliser

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:14 pm
by alan.barker
JonB wrote:Yes it is.

However, it only ever registers just over 1/2 full when the tank is filled. There is something going on...

If you have a reading on the Fuel Gauge then the Voltage Stabiliser is good :wink:
Alan

Re: Quick way to check the voltage stabiliser

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:19 pm
by JonB
It is definitely working, Alan, but is it working properly? I'm going to put a 'scope on it and work out the average voltage.

Re: Quick way to check the voltage stabiliser

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:22 pm
by john.p.clegg
as Chancer said ..... "if you use an analogue multimeter with a damped display you can get a better idea of the average voltage"

+1 the above...( do you need the damped display ? )

John :wink:

Re: Quick way to check the voltage stabiliser

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:23 pm
by Chancer
I would say yes, the only time Idid it was with a dirt cheap old analogue meter (all y decent ones are digital) and the needle swung up and down rapidly, fine if checking that a lamda sensor was switching but no use for judging an average voltage.

Maybe the cheapies these days have better damping, I think that the amount of damping needed for the bi-metallic regulator would make a meter too unresponsive for general use.