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PostPost by: Mark plus 2 cabby » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:21 pm

hello all,
had my plus 2 chris neil cabriolet a while now, and although up and running ,"on the road",
it is in need of tlc , I have bought a new distributor ,lucas 41747A 43dm4 and lucas ab14
amplifier package , however with no wiring diagram !!! , and non forthcoming from supposedly
reputable supplier.

So can anyone help , please
wiring between dizzy and amp is straight forward , But there are 4 wires from the amp' I cant work out

two long , plain white (female amp connector) and a white with black trace (male amp connector)
two shorter , both white with black trace , one bullet connector and one male amp connector

I would guess the longer wires are to the coil ?
ballast resistor ?
and the shorter wires to the tacho ?

I'm very hesitant to have a guess and risk frying the amp

thanks in advance

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PostPost by: john.p.clegg » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:59 pm

Mark

2 for you..

v12 ign1.jpg and


v12 ign 2.jpg and


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PostPost by: billwill » Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:50 am

Perhaps your devices are described in this Lucas Fault diagnosis service manual

http://www.atcc.org.nz/tcc/LucasFault.pdf
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PostPost by: john.p.clegg » Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:33 am

Bill

Sorry, the website www.atcc.org.nz cannot be found.

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PostPost by: vernon.taylor » Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:38 am

Salut Mark

Love to see photos of your car - I have a +2 CN, too.

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PostPost by: billwill » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:25 pm

john.p.clegg wrote:Bill

Sorry, the website http://www.atcc.org.nz cannot be found.

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O rats, I kept a copy but this website limits uploads to 2Mb each.

Lucas Fault-Diagnosis Service Manual is a bit too big.

It mentions the OPUS system and how to test it and has a similar diagram to the one above, but alas does not show the wiring colours, so it doesn't help much.
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PostPost by: Galwaylotus » Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:22 am

Just Google LucasFault and the manual will come up.
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PostPost by: Mark plus 2 cabby » Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:22 pm

thanks for help , so far
i will post some pic's of my car soon , hopefully before going to the classic car show at the nec this sunday.
however my ignition is not the opus type, its later, i have chased suggestions offered so far, but not got a difinative answer yet !. i believe its similar, or the same , as fitted to some Esprit and excel cars

maney thanks
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PostPost by: Galwaylotus » Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:55 pm

Don't know if this helps but I found it on another forum: http://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/10123-lucas-electronic-distributor/
"Rassilon, on May 22 2007, 06:05 PM, said:
I have a AB14 (47268A) Lucas external amp.

Update - Basically the notes I received when I fitted the amp\distributor & slimmed down the instructions.

The amplifier receives the negative 12v supply through its casing so it must be fixed to a part of the car which is earthed.

The 12v ignition supply connects to the plain white wire to power the electronics inside it. (the positive side of the ignition coil may be supplied through a ballast resistor on your vehicle so its probably best to take power from the battery side of the resistor so you get the full 12 volts.

The negative side of the ignition coil then connects to the white/black wire from the amplifier. The switching current then comes from the white/black amplifier wire. Then just plug the cable in from the distributor to the amplifier so the distributor can control what the amplifier sends to the coil.

Use strobe light to reset the engine timing.

The only thing left to add was that we didnt swap the original weights over on the distributor & this caused it to overheat on the M5 badly weakening the head gasket (now deceased). Fitting the original weights (& retightening down the head) brought a difference of 6 degree's, requiring retiming to be done."
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