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behind the dash on a Plus 2

PostPost by: Hongokongo » Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:52 am

Hi,
I need to get behind the dash board to i) remove the rev counter and ii) to get to the wiper switch, to tighten it, as it has worked loose. However, you seem to need fingers 6 inches long with universal joints for knuckles. Is there an easy way to get to the back of these instruments?
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PostPost by: el-saturn » Sun Aug 18, 2013 12:41 pm

.....loosen the steering column, pull out steering tube, remove dashboard bolts, pull the dash away
and there U go: 15min. of undirty work. good luck sandy j
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PostPost by: Hongokongo » Sun Aug 18, 2013 12:47 pm

Thanks, I'll give it a go.
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PostPost by: billwill » Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:43 pm

You can get at most things if you remove the two knee trim panels.

The wiper control needs to be tightened from the front, the nut is deep in an alloy tube.

The knob comes off by pressing in a little button on the side.

Then get a short (say 6 inch) tube of metal that will go into the alloy tube and cut the ends with a hacksaw leaving two small points at 180 degrees apart, to fit in the slots of the securing nut.
It is then easy to tighten the nut and replace the knob.
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PostPost by: oldelanman » Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:52 pm

billwill wrote:The wiper control needs to be tightened from the front, the nut is deep in an alloy tube.
The knob comes off by pressing in a little button on the side.
Then get a short (say 6 inch) tube of metal that will go into the alloy tube and cut the ends with a hacksaw leaving two small points at 180 degrees apart, to fit in the slots of the securing nut.
It is then easy to tighten the nut and replace the knob.

Isn't that the headlamp vacuum switch Bill ?
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PostPost by: billwill » Sun Aug 18, 2013 6:21 pm

oldelanman wrote:
billwill wrote:The wiper control needs to be tightened from the front, the nut is deep in an alloy tube.
The knob comes off by pressing in a little button on the side.
Then get a short (say 6 inch) tube of metal that will go into the alloy tube and cut the ends with a hacksaw leaving two small points at 180 degrees apart, to fit in the slots of the securing nut.
It is then easy to tighten the nut and replace the knob.

Isn't that the headlamp vacuum switch Bill ?



Ulp! have I confused the two?

Anyway the same home made tool can be used to tighten any of the panel controls I think, so it is still worth making one.

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<returns triumphant>

Aha.. No I am not going potty yet. My Wiper switch is the old one that used to have a hand pump section on the back to pump the washer fluid. And it is indeed the one which is set back in an alloy tube, not the Headlamp lifter.
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Wiper/Washer Control from the side

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Wiper control with knob removed to see securing nut

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Home-made tube tool to tighten recessed switch nuts.
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PostPost by: Hongokongo » Sun Aug 18, 2013 7:13 pm

Sorry, what are knee trim panels?
I don't think I have those, but still can't reach where I need to.
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PostPost by: billwill » Sun Aug 18, 2013 7:25 pm

Hongokongo wrote:Sorry, what are knee trim panels?
I don't think I have those, but still can't reach where I need to.



See the photos above that I just uploaded. The (black) knee trim panels attach to the curve of the dashboard just above the drivers & passengers knees to hide the stuff behind the dash board. It is possible that yours are missing.


Which model car is yours.
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PostPost by: Hongokongo » Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:16 pm

1969 Elan plus 2. there is no under dash cover, just loads of wires!!
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PostPost by: billwill » Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:30 am

Alas I don't know enough about Plus 2s.

I suggest you edit the original message and change the title to "Behind the Plus 2 dash" to get some more Plus 2 owners to read this topic.

:D 8)
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PostPost by: Hongokongo » Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:47 am

El-Saturn.
Do your instructions apply to the Plus 2 as well?
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PostPost by: elanman999 » Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:32 pm

Hongokongo,
It would also be good to know what type of switch you have as the tacho is a long way from either. If it's the early rotary type (as my car) I go in from the radio slot. If it's the rocker type I would have thought you can get at it from the side.
I would also point out that if it's an early +2 with the Ford column the most you need to do to remove the tacho is to remove the column shrouds.
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PostPost by: crannyr » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:56 pm

It is my experience that both tach and speedo can be removed without disassembling the steering column.
I have always been able to very carefully work one hand from under the dash thru the wiring nest until I find the 2 knurl nuts that retain the 2 mounts brackets. They are on finger tight and can be spun off releasing the instrument which then can be pulled from the dash while releasing attached cables, wires, and bulbs as they come out of the dash.
Replacement is the same but more difficult as you now have to find the mounting studs, slip on the brackets, and the nuts all by feel. A word of caution, there may also be ground wires on one or more of the studs that have to be located and replaced.

Hope this helps

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PostPost by: Hongokongo » Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:50 pm

John,
I'm away from home at the moment, but will post a picture, if I can, when I return.
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PostPost by: Hongokongo » Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:24 pm

My switch appears to be the same as the one above, but how do you get the knob off to access the nut?
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