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Source of License plate lights on S4 & Sprints?

PostPost by: pharriso » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:48 pm

I will need a couple of gaskets to go under the rear license plate lights. Looked through Matty/Miller/Bean catalogs with no success.

I have done a search here, but not found an answer to the source of these parts. Some suggestions that they may be ex-Volvo 240 (add heaviness...)
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PostPost by: pharriso » Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:04 pm

Just pulled "Robinshaw & Ross" off the book shelf, lists it as :

Hella 2KA.001.378.00 or Hella 12958 R4, now what the heck were they used on?

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PostPost by: oldelanman » Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:50 pm

SJ Sportscars list the lamp........http://www.sjsportscars.co.uk/index.php?mod=10
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PostPost by: ricarbo » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:56 pm

When I bought new one's last, which must be nearly 20 years ago, having found the right Hella item, I looked at the cross reference chart, and saw they were listed for a Mercedes van. Even heavier than a Volvo.
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PostPost by: peterexpart » Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:24 am

They are a Universal Number Plate Light used on many current European Trucks, the correct Hella Part Number for the Chrome one is 2KA001378-001 and they are current production so you should be able to Order from any Hella Distributor at about GBP 8.75 they are also available in Silver and Black under different Part Numbers
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PostPost by: pharriso » Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:48 am

Thanks for all the info guys, I found the following applications (Original part numbers):

Auw?rter: 11025348, 1503.400.00
DAF: 055 7096
Deutz-fahr: 043 96049
Knaus: 050858, R01010036
MAN: 81.25225.6111, 82.25225-6111, 83.25240.6001
Mercedes: 000 820 12 60, 001 820 14 56, A 000 820 12 60, A 001 820 14 56
Neoplan: 1102.534.8, 1503.400.00
Scania: 257 933, 478 344, 492 205
EAN Code: 4082300211511

So as PeterExpat says, "a Universal Number Plate Light used on many current European Trucks". Unlikely that I will find it in the States, but someone has kindly offered me their old gaskets, so I may not need to!

& btw as oldelanman says, SJ Sportscars do stock them. Sue Miller & Paul Matty stock the light as well, so plenty of sources in the UK.

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PostPost by: pharriso » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:07 pm

Thanks to pamitchel I now have a nice pair of seals for the license plate lights - thanks Phil.

For the record everyone now knows where they came from & where they the lights can be sourced.

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Here are a couple of pictures of the top & bottom of the seal:
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LicensePlateLight_Seal_Top.JPG and
Top face of seal
LicensePlateLight_Seal_Under.JPG and
Underneath
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PostPost by: nmauduit » Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:27 am

it is still manufactured by Hella, see p46 on the online catalog

http://www.hella.com/hella-be/assets/me ... rhomes.PDF

though the gaskets I've seen are only made in black and not in the greyish rubber as originally on my car (I shall add that the Hella number on my rear plate lights is K 12813, of similar appearance as the 12958 one can still source easily today)
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PostPost by: pharriso » Thu Feb 04, 2016 1:49 pm

Thanks for posting the catalog, it shows the different variants:
hellacaravancatalog_licenseplatelights.jpg and


I recently bought a pair of the 378-041s, they are made in India & are OK but the finish is a matt silver rather than bright chrome, as you mentioned the gaskets are also black instead of grey:
hella_12958_front.jpg and


I put this down to the Indian Manufacture, but with the catalog showing that the correctly silvered ones are still manufactured I have just ordered a pair of the silver finish ones 378-001 from Spare Parts store (http://www.sparepartstore24.co.uk/933532-hella

I'll report back on the quality once they have been delivered.
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PostPost by: billwill » Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:39 pm

I suspect that the grey gasket is merely grey with old age and probably started black.
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PostPost by: pharriso » Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:49 pm

billwill wrote:I suspect that the grey gasket is merely grey with old age and probably started black.


No I don't think so, it's not surface bloom... Grey through & through...
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PostPost by: pereirac » Tue Mar 08, 2016 1:29 pm

Seems they are easy to get hold of at a sensible price ..

http://www.sparepartstore24.co.uk/933532-hella

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