Horn / steering column ground issue...
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Baffled by this one. Everything about the horn circuit checks and test functions up to the horn button itself.
Horn button and associated plunger all pass bench tests. However a ground from the steering column or steering shaft is missing.
If I attach a ground cable to the steering shaft above the universal, everything works fine. The steering rack itself has a working ground. But, the rubber bushings in the universal joint appear to electrically isolate the shaft.
It does not appear in the manual that any kind of jumper was intended to bridge this. Yet the horn did work in the past. Have no idea what has changed.
Any suggestions? Thanks!
Horn button and associated plunger all pass bench tests. However a ground from the steering column or steering shaft is missing.
If I attach a ground cable to the steering shaft above the universal, everything works fine. The steering rack itself has a working ground. But, the rubber bushings in the universal joint appear to electrically isolate the shaft.
It does not appear in the manual that any kind of jumper was intended to bridge this. Yet the horn did work in the past. Have no idea what has changed.
Any suggestions? Thanks!
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I bought these - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LOTUS-ELAN-PAIR-STEERING-HORN-EARTH-STRAPS/371845048398?hash=item5693b1284e:g:sPMAAOSw44BYg2Ru
Worked perfectly
His postage is the US is rediculous, you could ask him for a better rate...
Worked perfectly
His postage is the US is rediculous, you could ask him for a better rate...
Phil Harrison
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No one seems to have given you a simple answer, though you can deduce it from the complex answers.
YES, there should be a conducting link bridging the rubber joint of the steering universal joint. The simplest fix is to make you own link as per the picture in the topic referred to above.
YES, there should be a conducting link bridging the rubber joint of the steering universal joint. The simplest fix is to make you own link as per the picture in the topic referred to above.
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I’d like to thank everyone for their prompt response to my problem. It does appear to be caused by the missing jumper.
I’ve just finished pulling the flex joint. Figured it’d be easier to fit a jumper on the bench and might as well renew the bushings while we’re at it.
Will post an update to confirm if that proves to be the solution.
As an almost lifelong Lotus owner, I think the ideal Lotus mechanic has arms resembling the tentacles of an octopus, tipped with the tiny dexterous fingers of a raccoon, capable of delivering the torque of an air impact wrench, has the patience of Job and is not claustrophobic.
I’ve just finished pulling the flex joint. Figured it’d be easier to fit a jumper on the bench and might as well renew the bushings while we’re at it.
Will post an update to confirm if that proves to be the solution.
As an almost lifelong Lotus owner, I think the ideal Lotus mechanic has arms resembling the tentacles of an octopus, tipped with the tiny dexterous fingers of a raccoon, capable of delivering the torque of an air impact wrench, has the patience of Job and is not claustrophobic.
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A long time ago, about 1970 I saw a cartoon showing an advertisement for Lotus mechanic with special attributes.
The mechanic was much as described above, but all fingers and thumbs had hexagonal holes of differing sizes.
Made me laugh,
Richard Hawkins
The mechanic was much as described above, but all fingers and thumbs had hexagonal holes of differing sizes.
Made me laugh,
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And the agility and flexibility of a snake for getting under the dash.
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1964 Elva Mk4T Coupe (awaiting restoration)
1965 Ford Falcon Ranchero, 302,AOD,9",rack and pinion,disc,etc,etc,etc
1954 Nash Healey LeMans Coupe
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ElanDNA wrote:And don't forget to have the disinfectant for all bloody spots at hand ...
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There's plenty of that around at the moment.
For the jumper maybe Braid is more flexible.
Alan
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Success!
Want to thank everyone who responded and offered advice and support.
Issue was the missing ground across the flex coupling.
My rubber bushings were shot. I replaced the original unit with RD Enterprises universal type joint. Maybe other sources have them but RD did not carry the original style bushings.
Before installing, I tested for electrical continuity across the joint. Failed to conduct reliably. Installed it with a pair of jumpers.
Horn works great!
Was quite the task removing and replacing that coupling!
Thanks again. On to the endless task list.
Want to thank everyone who responded and offered advice and support.
Issue was the missing ground across the flex coupling.
My rubber bushings were shot. I replaced the original unit with RD Enterprises universal type joint. Maybe other sources have them but RD did not carry the original style bushings.
Before installing, I tested for electrical continuity across the joint. Failed to conduct reliably. Installed it with a pair of jumpers.
Horn works great!
Was quite the task removing and replacing that coupling!
Thanks again. On to the endless task list.
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