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Re: speedo angle drive

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:46 pm
by oldelanman
vernon.taylor wrote:When I changed mine I was advised not to drive - though I can't see what the problem would be if the retaining fork is still in place and the oil seal OK.

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Vernon


From here.......elan-plus-f13/dead-speedo-t23678.html

Quote....
"If you are going to drive without the angle drive - disconnect it from the adaptor by undoing the knurled nut, do not remove the clamping fork which holds the adaptor, bearing/housing and driven gear in place. Otherwise the whole lot may be pushed out of the gearbox as you drive and lost. The speedo driven gear has a spiral groove along the length of the shaft designed to "wind" the oil back into the gearbox as it turns so you may be lucky and not lose any but I would not like to guarantee that."

Re: speedo angle drive

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:01 pm
by vernon.taylor
Oh dear, the ol' memory is really going. You did right to remind me, Roger.

Re: speedo angle drive

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:16 pm
by oldelanman
My pleasure :wink:

Re: speedo angle drive

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:10 pm
by RichC
Fb service from Susan Miller. I only spoke to her yesterday pm and I've come home to find her packet has arrived already!
Top Marks!
RichC

Re: speedo angle drive

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:11 pm
by RichC
that should read FAB service !

Re: speedo angle drive

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:41 pm
by ericbushby
Great Information here, thanks.
I just investigated further today why my speedo doesn`t work. I have checked speedo head, angle drive and fitted a new cable. I now think I may have found the problem.
From the photo do you think I might be on the right lines.
I will be ringing Sue Miller in the morning unless some one has a better idea.
Vernon said a seized drive might strip the gear. The speedo wasn`t working when I bought the car last year but I know the previous owner had changed the angle drive.
Eric in Burnley
1967 S3SE Type 45

Re: speedo angle drive

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:36 pm
by RichC
spectacular piece of modern art!

Re: speedo angle drive

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:15 pm
by vernon.taylor
Salut Eric

Looks like chewed chewing gum!

I'd be interested if Sue can help you out - could you ask her if she has other ratios, please?

As I mentioned in the thread, if the 2000E 'box and real rocket 'box are the same design, than Burton Power have them. I lent my catalogue - I think they were around ?30.

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Vernon

Re: speedo angle drive

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:59 am
by ericbushby
New green drive gear ordered from Susan Miller just now.
Hello Vernon,
Sue has Black and Blue gears in stock but no longer any green ones. Phew!
Eric in Burnley
1967 S3SE Type 45

Re: speedo angle drive

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:31 pm
by MickG
Hope it's not made the same mess of the drive on the output shaft :cry:

Re: speedo angle drive

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:33 pm
by types26/36
MickG wrote:Hope it's not made the same mess of the drive on the output shaft :cry:


I could be wrong but isn't the gear on the mainshaft steel? if so I doubt it is damaged.

Re: speedo angle drive

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:18 pm
by ericbushby
Thanks for your thoughts.
I expected the drive gear to be steel but it is also made of green plastic which is worrying. However, earlier, Steve said it is made of a harder material by design.
With the car on stands, lying on my back, torch in one hand, dentists mirror in the other and turning the rear wheel with my left foot I could see that although marked, the drive gear appears undamaged. It is a good job I was on my own or with all the laughter I might not have been able to manage it.
I will see if it operates smoothly after it is assembled.
Eric in Burnley
1967 S3SE Type 45 (Not running, up on stands)

Re: speedo angle drive

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:06 pm
by ardee_selby
types26/36 wrote: I could be wrong but isn't the gear on the mainshaft steel? if so I doubt it is damaged.


ericbushby wrote: I expected the drive gear to be steel but it is also made of green plastic which is worrying.


I'd have put a small wager it was steel...and lost!

This site (http://www.fordanglia105eownersclub.co. ... -a-change/) includes:

"The 2000E wheel is made from very brittle plastic and is rare to come across one that has all its teeth. If you are lucky enough to find one intact, then great. If not remove the steel one from the 1200 shaft by knocking back the tab washer and undoing the large nut. Before sliding it off, cup your hand underneath as there is a tiny ball bearing under it that acts as a woodruff key"

Worth bearing in mind.

Cheers - Richard

Re: speedo angle drive

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:18 pm
by RichC
sorry , I think I'm missing something here ... 2000E box ?
is that the box used in all models pls?
i.e. have we all got green gears that need inspecting?

Re: speedo angle drive

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:38 pm
by ardee_selby
RichC wrote:sorry , I think I'm missing something here ... 2000E box ?
is that the box used in all models pls?
i.e. have we all got green gears that need inspecting?


I believe it's something to check for...

See g'box applications here:

download/file.php?id=14263
post150304.html?hilit= clever#p150304

Cheers - Richard