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AP/Borg & Beck clutch 76251/33

PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:49 pm
by prloz
Hi,
Have AP/Borg & Beck clutch assembly 76251/33. I understand this is used in a Lotus Elan application. Does anyone have information on this ?
Thanks.
Regards,
Peter.

Re: AP/Borg & Beck clutch 76251/33

PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:11 pm
by ppnelan
Yes, you are correct. 76251/33 is the 8-1/2" Cover Assembly used on the Elan 4-speed. I know because I used to work for AP and have some part number lists. :)

:arrow: Matthew

Re: AP/Borg & Beck clutch 76251/33

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:26 am
by prloz
Thanks Matthew, you are a champion :D
Can you help me with the part number for the matching (8" dia. ?) friction disk ?
Regards,
Peter.

Re: AP/Borg & Beck clutch 76251/33

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:08 am
by prloz
Hi Matthew,
Any luck with a part number for the friction disk :?:
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Peter.

Re: AP/Borg & Beck clutch 76251/33

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:24 am
by rgh0
Robinshaw and Ross lists the parts as follows

Pressure (Cover) plate - Borg and Beck HE 2846 or Ford 3020E 7563A
8 inch friction plate - Borg and Beck HE 1340 or Ford 3020E 7550A

I presume Borg and Beck have changed their numbering since the R&R book was written

regards
Rohan

Re: AP/Borg & Beck clutch 76251/33

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:24 am
by ppnelan
HE numbers are clutch cover sales numbers which I think are usually on a sticker on the box. The 76251/33 is the component part number, probably stamped or printed on the cover itself.

The 8in driven plate is HB9738 if you find it in a box, or LCGF02101B for the plate alone (yes, a different numbering system - AP were renown for this...). There may be other numbers on the individual parts in the driven plate assembly too which can help/hinder identification... :?

Good luck!
:arrow: Matthew

Re: AP/Borg & Beck clutch 76251/33

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:33 am
by prloz
Hi Rohan, Many thanks. I do have the R&R book. As you say, numbering system probably changed over the years. Also, as Matthew says, sales number on box may not match production number on part. Probably dangerous to assume part is even in its original box !!!!
Best to go with actual number on part.

Hi Matthew, Many thanks. Sure are confusing these numbers !!!!
Seems there are at least two sales numbers for the clutch disk - HB1340 and HB9738. I'll go with the number on the part.

Regards,
Peter.

Re: AP/Borg & Beck clutch 76251/33

PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:53 am
by john.p.clegg
Matthew

Can you help,with your Borg&Beck numbers.....

Part No 51580 and 53131,both numbers stamped on my friction disc on my 5 speed,would like to know which engine/car Colin "borrowed" it from?

Many Thanks
John :wink:

Re: AP/Borg & Beck clutch 76251/33

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:01 am
by ppnelan
Sorry John, I only have limited information mainly for the 4-speed as I did not have or expect to have a 5-speed +2 at the time... :wink:

I would guess it was a specific design for the particular hub spline, diameter, and centre springs. It is probably made from 'standard components' common to other models, but the particular combination would be unique for this model. The number of part numbers on the AP system was staggering which is why I only have a few snippets...

:arrow: Matthew