Gearbox to spedo cable oil seal?

PostPost by: GreekS1 » Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:21 am

Hello,
I recently sent both my main instuments to Speedy Cables for calibration. The engineer working on my speedometer found it to be full of gear oil and so suggested I check the seal on the gearbox before refitting it.
I removed the T joint from the right front of the gearbox where the cables joins it. I cant however find any seal on it or on the gearbox. There was just a thin gasket which I think is to prevent oil from dripping down.

My question is: is there supposed to be a seal that pevents oil to be carried on from the cable to the speedometer? And if so, where should it be located?

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PostPost by: ardee_selby » Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:15 am

Vassilis,

I don't remember any sealing apart from the 'O' ring and gasket shown in this thread:

elan-f15/gearbox-angle-drive-oil-leak-t24083.html

However, the same problem was reported here:

elan-f15/speedo-full-oil-t13777.html

It isn't clear whether cleaning the breather resulted in a cure, but worth checking...

HIH - Cheers - Richard

Edit: A fews days later Mr. Schrodinger said "After a slight issue with gearbox oil ( :roll: )"
but didn't say how the issue was resolved!

A plea: Can folks please "close the loop" when faults are reported, solutions suggested and what was the subsequent cure.
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PostPost by: Robbie693 » Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:36 am

I believe it's the scroll that is cut into the drive gear shaft that is supposed to prevent oil going up the cable...

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PostPost by: GreekS1 » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:17 am

Thanks for your replies..

I think the O ring might be missing. Must check. Ill also check the groves on the shaft.

I dont suppose there is any logic in pulling the actual angle drive apart to check the interior seals (if any)?

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PostPost by: Robbie693 » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:49 am

Hi Vassilis,

If the 'o' ring is missing or damaged you get oil leaking out from around the bearing carrier. There should also be a paper gasket between the bearing carrier and the angle drive. This was unavailable when I did mine so I used RTV. I think there should be a gasket under the knurled collar too. All these things are supposed to stop oil leaking out but I don't think they will stop oil going up the cable.

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PostPost by: GreekS1 » Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:03 pm

Hi Robbie,
yes, thats what I would think too.
So then only the scroll does the job of keeping the oil off the cable..?
Thing is, I wouldnt want my newly refubrished dial to be full of oil again!
Ill see what I find and report back..

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PostPost by: ardee_selby » Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:14 pm

Apart from the specific case with an Elan (as I already cited here: elan-f15/speedo-full-oil-t13777.html)

A blocked vent is a common cause of speedo head damage :( Is it clear of crud?

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/195834 ... -breather/

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php ... 036.0;wap2

http://www.renault4.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=3100

http://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/ind ... opic=31782

Good Luck

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PostPost by: GreekS1 » Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:21 pm

Thanks Richard!

Will check the vent too!

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PostPost by: ardee_selby » Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:32 pm

GreekS1 wrote:Thanks Richard!

Will check the vent too!

Vassilis


Worthwhile to eliminate it. The vent gets a mention here under "Oil Leaks" :

http://www.lotuselan.net/publish/lsb_ge ... ding.shtml

Note: Location is also important : "Ensure that the rear cover is correctly fitted (i.e. vent hole to the rear)"

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