Plus 2 mystery holes ?

PostPost by: klfulop » Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:24 pm

This car came to me in a disassembled state and as such is presenting some mysteries. Can anyone identify the pair of holes in the door to roof opening ? I see the countersunk holes are for the headliner bow retainers but these two plain holes have me baffled. There is a matching pair on the other side.

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PostPost by: GLB » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:16 pm

my Dec of 70 build +2s has a dome light on each side. There is a metal bracket there to hold them. They are VW bus lights. Gary
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PostPost by: klfulop » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:25 pm

Is this what you are referring to ?

Looks about right. Any idea what attaches with the additional rivet ?
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PostPost by: h20hamelan » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:58 pm

is the photo inside of the door sill, or inside of the cabin?
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PostPost by: klfulop » Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:27 am

h20hamelan wrote:is the photo inside of the door sill, or inside of the cabin?


Sorry. The photo is from the outside of the car looking into the top of the door opening up towards the roof. Additionally the photo is rotated 90 degrees (just to make it more confusing).

It seems like we have identified the pair of holes as rivet holes for securing the courtesy light housings. I would still like to know what the third rivet on the housing goes to.
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PostPost by: Lotusian » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:09 am

Could it be for the earth (ground) wire?
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PostPost by: elanfan1 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:19 am

I’m confused (easily) but surely anything fitted there is going to foul the doorframe??
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PostPost by: jono » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:17 am

I can't ever recall a third rivet on mine - I would ignore it.

This is how they 'sit'
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PostPost by: Bud English » Mon Feb 15, 2021 6:09 pm

The ground wire is riveted there.
The metal box is mounted on the upper inside of the door frame under the headliner.
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PostPost by: klfulop » Mon Feb 15, 2021 6:30 pm

Bud English wrote:The ground wire is riveted there.
The metal box is mounted on the upper inside of the door frame under the headliner.


Wow ! Riveted ground wire ! Crazy. But that would explain it.

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PostPost by: Slowtus » Mon Feb 15, 2021 6:37 pm

klfulop wrote:
Bud English wrote:The ground wire is riveted there.
The metal box is mounted on the upper inside of the door frame under the headliner.


Wow ! Riveted ground wire ! Crazy. But that would explain it.

Thank you gentlemen !


Riveted to what? - hard to tell from the photos. If the ground wire is riveted to the (fiberglass) body, won't be doing much grounding.
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PostPost by: stugilmour » Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:06 pm

Assuming the meaning is the Purple/White wire riveted to the box or light?

The Purple/White forms the courtesy light ground loop, which includes one contact of the door switches and the dash switch in a loop. The lights typically come on if any of the multiple switches are closed to their Black ground (located on the other contact of each individual switch).

The courtesy light above the rear view mirror also has a multi position switch that allows only the single light to come on by grounding to it’s own Black.

Interesting as this courtesy light location is for the later cars; our Federal cars have the lights located on the C pillar panel.

HTH. Apologies if this is already obvious, but still beastly cold here! 8). Might help someone in the future searching the archives I guess.
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