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PostPost by: Andiken » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:11 pm

Evening all, for a '73 s 130 is there a known source of new front seat foams and rubber webbing membrane please?

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PostPost by: richardcox_lotus » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:18 pm

Just for the foam; not that I’m aware of. I think you can get the whole kit and kaboodle from Sue Miller or Paul Matty but not a split set.

However this subject has come up here in the last 2 years so may be worth a search or two.

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PostPost by: mbell » Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:02 pm

Fully correct one are not available as far as I know.

I think the suppliers will sell some rubber webbing but this is just a approximately right sized one from more commonly available seat (MGB/Triumph etc) rather then a correct one of the seat with raised central lips. I think some people have made them work but I didn't bother. In my case i just bought some webbing frabic and made up straps.

For the foam I ended up reusing mine, I just re enforced with layer of dense foam at bottom as that was where the foam was breaking up. I also used the foam to provide the central lip and stitched the center of the seat to that.

Other have cut new foam from standard pieces of foam.
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PostPost by: Andiken » Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:12 pm

Thanks for the reply. How did you fix the webbing to the frame? Can you explain more about the original webbing and the raised central lips please?

As you may have guessed, I haven't taken mine apart yet. The underside of the foam base looks a little crumbly but generally they look and feel fine, however both membranes have had it! I like the idea of gluing some thin foam to the underside of the base to stabilise it.
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PostPost by: mbell » Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:52 am

Photo of the original:
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The seam for the center sections of the seat are sewn to the lip and the foam is glued to the bases.

Deepening how bad yours are you might get away with removing the covers and bases then sticking some fabric across the entire base to hold it all together and reenforce it all.

My webbing:
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PostPost by: Andiken » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:40 am

Thanks for the information and photos, much appreciated. Did you buy the webbing cut to length with the clips already attached or did you buy the clips separately?
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PostPost by: alan.barker » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:24 am

Maybe TR6 Foams from "Rimmer Bros" will be close enough and correct density.
Or on my TVR 3000M and TVR 3000S i bought Foams from Adrian Venn .
I have owned +2 Elans and the Seats are very similar to the Elan +2 Seats.
This is a much better solution than messing about Gluing bits of Foam together and cutting with an Electric Bread Knife :shock: :shock: .
You can get the Rubber Swab (TR6) also from "Rimmer Bros" which give better support than Webbing Straps.
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ps. glue hession to bottom of Foams to protect them :wink: :wink:
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PostPost by: Andiken » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:59 am

Hi Alan, thanks for the advice, I'll have a look at the rubber membrane from Rimmer's.
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PostPost by: Steve Brooks » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:46 am

Hi Andy,as well as Sue Miller and Paul Matty SJ Sportscars sell seat rubber bases.Haven't found any foam kits as yet.Regards Steve
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PostPost by: alanr » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:39 am

A seat diaphragm from a TR6 may fit an early +2 but having bought one I found unsuitable for my +2S130 due to the later seats having a separate centre foams. The diaphragms from the usual suppliers I would suggest may fit better.
re-Foam. I spoke to literally the world and his wife about +2 seat foams but couldn't source what I thought was an acceptable foam alternative so had to resort to building up the existing foams and then reshaping the foam to suit. Not an ideal solution and my seats are acceptable for now but I may have to revisit sometime in the future.

Do please tell if you source seats foams for the later +2 seats.

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PostPost by: Andiken » Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:50 pm

Thanks all, I now have a couple of rubber seat membranes on order from Sue Miller.
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PostPost by: mbell » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:29 pm

Please let us know what they are like. I still need to do my passenger seat.

My webbing was just a roll and clips, that made up my self. All standard upholstery parts I got from Amazon.
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PostPost by: alan.barker » Fri Aug 21, 2020 3:08 pm

You can attache parts with "Hog Rings" and Pliers from a D.I.Y. Shop
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PostPost by: Andiken » Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:32 pm

The seat rubber bases arrived today from Sue Miller, I'll photograph them and post the images here tomorrow. They look good though.
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PostPost by: alan.barker » Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:15 pm

When you do the Foams don't forget to Glue Hesian on the bottom of the Foam to protect it :wink: :wink:
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