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PostPost by: Concrete-crusher » Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:20 pm

Now my engines out I thought I'd hunt for the chassis number , on mine it's stamped on the right hand side under the steering column.

Do any of the members have records which could identity this number. It's sort of half way between an S3 and S4

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PostPost by: seniorchristo » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:10 pm

Hi Steve
I have 457594 LHD Built Nov. 1967
It is a US Super Safety model with flat bonnet and Weber carbs. Sold to a California distributor. :)
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PostPost by: m750rider » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:16 pm

http://www.elanregistry.org/list_cars.php


Looks like it would be a 1968 S3
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PostPost by: Pastapesto » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:33 pm

I have 36/7574.... It's yellow & has some super safety features & is a Coupe SE......lots to do to get it finished.......

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PostPost by: Pastapesto » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:35 pm

Oh. Sorry, forgot to say it's an S3.............
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PostPost by: types26/36 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:51 pm

Looks like a late 67 or early 68 S3
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PostPost by: Concrete-crusher » Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:04 am

Thanks for the feedback , somebody else said the number matched super safety export. Obviously it's not exported as I live in Southampton uk , its registered as an S4 but I can see it's an S3 body and has S3 wiring and an S3 dash. It also has a webasco sunroof , more interestingly the bonnet had the bulge on the other side suggesting another engine , the current engine is marked 3020E , so far I cannot find any other engine serial numbers except the cast type numbers.

The gel coat colour is a light green , although it was painted white when I got it over twenty years ago , and I have changed it to Red.

The early history would be interesting but I suppose it's lost.

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PostPost by: types26/36 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:30 am

Concrete-crusher wrote:, somebody else said the number matched super safety export. current engine is marked 3020E , so far I cannot find any other engine serial numbers except the cast type numbers.
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Well the VIN # falls within the SS cars but I think Lotus just used a few of the SS bits on the domestic cars, I had one with a close VIN to yours and the only SS bits I found were the SS type interior door handles and S4 door pull, the rest was S3 SE.
Lotus used to scratch out the diff oil words on the VIN plate, it only seem to be on the S3 SE cars which had a 3.55 diff as I have seen several like this.
They also used to grind off the casting number and stamp it with 3020E (exh side) is there an LP XXXXX number on the block above the carb side engine mount?
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PostPost by: el-saturn » Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:01 pm

............... the first time i saw this: 26 elans went all the way to chassis nr. 5810 - my 36 has this number 36/4982--------------------------------------------------- so where and when did they find my leftover???? it should have been outta there maybe a year earlier!!??!! sandy
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PostPost by: Concrete-crusher » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:19 pm

Today I have given the gearbox a good clean and it's a 2821E which I think refers to a semi close ratio box. The diff is a 3.55/1 ratio.

On the carb side above the engine mount its stamped 3020E the same as the exhaust side.

Does the 45 refer to DHC only as mine is a coupe ? Or so I thought , unless somebody,s added the roof as it's vinyl with a webasco sunroof.

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PostPost by: elanfan1 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:55 pm

Type 45 is definitely DHC something very odd has gone on with your car the past. Do the details on your V5C match the chassis plate? What does it say regarding engine no.? Might be worth trying to trace the history to find out though if it turns out to be a bitsa you might wish you hadn't.

Interesting tho'

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PostPost by: types26/36 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:52 pm

Concrete-crusher wrote:Today I have given the gearbox a good clean and it's a 2821E which I think refers to a semi close ratio box. The diff is a 3.55/1 ratio."

...........correct, 2000E ratios (2.97 fist gear)

"On the carb side above the engine mount its stamped 3020E the same as the exhaust side."

..............Odd, 3020E is Fords designation for a MK2 Cortina Lotus and as far as I am aware there are no blocks with a cast in number 3020E only stamped 3020E.
This does not mean your engine is from a Cortina as I believe Lotus did the grinding and stamping but the reasons are lost in time.

"Does the 45 refer to DHC only as mine is a coupe ? Or so I thought , unless somebody,s added the roof as it's vinyl with a webasco sunroof."

................45 only ID's a Drop Head and 36 the same for a Fixed Head but the numbers I posted do not differentiate between the cars only the VIN total numbers.

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PostPost by: el-saturn » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:20 pm

the ally plaque is hand inscribed and faded; matches the chassis number (which never saw any corrosion btw) which is here in the photo archive. i bought the car with a 701 L 6015 block BUT we gave the incorrect numbering a BIT OF HELP!! ------------ so, wowsers: ............matching numbers! - sandy PS only the modified engine number LP4425, as least important part!! (imho) is there but invisible (almost) to the inspector.
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PostPost by: nigelrbfurness » Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:45 am

S2 and S3 FHC production overlapped as the S3 DHC was not introduced until sometime after the commencement of production of the FHC. An early FHC with a 36-prefix vin number could be a lower number than a late S2 DHC, all of which had 26-prefixes. So your 36/4xxx number is quite likely to be genuine. This is well documented in a number of places.

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PostPost by: el-saturn » Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:47 am

. i also have the original sales invoice etcc...... car (lotus built) was imported by helbling FORD in rapperswil and i am the second owner (since 1981!) - i'll add the plaque maybe tonight. alpine greetings sandy
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