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Re & Reing Elan side frames

PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:34 am
by JonnyPlus2
Hi,
Anyone done this? I have to do it to fix the cracks that run the length of the car under the side frames on both sides.

Any tips, advice etc etc would be much appreciated.

Re: Re & Reing Elan side frames

PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 1:51 am
by elanfan1
I believe there are a number of threads about renewing sill members just have a search for those terms.

Re: Re & Reing Elan side frames

PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:25 am
by JonnyPlus2
Thanks, that was very helpful.

Re: Re & Reing Elan side frames

PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:20 am
by richardcox_lotus

Re: Re & Reing Elan side frames

PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:44 am
by pharriso


Based on the username "JonnyPlus2" I think we're talking Plus 2 here...

Re: Re & Reing Elan side frames

PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:13 pm
by Gordon Sauer
Took mine out the back and so rusted made sill attachment face all wavy between screws so reglassed and used stainless steel screws into galvanized one I used, Gordon Sauer

Re: Re & Reing Elan side frames

PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:04 pm
by JonnyPlus2
I chose my username when I was looking. The Elan coupe showed up before a Plus 2 and seemed like a tolerable substitute.

My side frames are in good nick (galvanized) but I have to pull them to fix the cracks in the glass underneath them. This side is terrible, the other side is just bad.

clean-shot-4.jpg and
clean-shot-2.jpg and


Screws? I didn't see any screws. Where are they supposed to be?

Re: Re & Reing Elan side frames

PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:35 pm
by Gordon Sauer
That was + 2 talk and here's a picture of my Elan but I thought just those points were maybe glassed in although there may be a piece of rebar running the length of the sill and in your case it would just be having to grind all that glass out and replace and reglass-no screws!-and not done here. Gordon Sauer

Re: Re & Reing Elan side frames

PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 11:37 pm
by elanfan1
Johnny,

I like others got confused by your name and thought you were talking Plus 2. I think this could be a recurring theme and it might pay you to change your user though how I don't know. As you may have noticed you've got some Plus 2 answers.

If the galvanising on your wire frames is intact you don't want to be removing it from the car - for a start it gives a lot further into the car than you would think. As has been said you need to grind out all the damaged stuff and reglass. Whether it might pay you to do that a little at a time to make it easier to retain the shape is up to you. It might be that if you can buy a cheap used bodyshell elsewhere you can cut out the required parts you need and either sell on or keep for the future the remainder.

Also YHM

Re: Re & Reing Elan side frames

PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 2:50 am
by Gordon Sauer
As I look at that some more, and you say the metal pieces are in good shape, then you really don't have to take any of that out since the metal and the glass right around it are still going to be strong, but rather V out where the cracks are and re-glass with several layers a good width and let that set up and then turn the car over and do the same on the inside where the crack is, with a deep enough V that basically you're almost meeting the fresh glass from the other side-- Standard stuff from the fiberglass repair books with Wilkins is the name I believe is the one that referred to here so often. It looks like where you ground down to the metal you really may have already taken off too much there unless you were just exploring. That really does look more like impact stuff the way some of it's been pushed out and overlapping the other, so considering another body is also reasonable depending on whether everything really lines up. Gordon Sauer

Re: Re & Reing Elan side frames

PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:36 am
by JonnyPlus2
Thanks for this Gentlemen. I can see that Re & reing the side frames may not be necessary. YAY!

Getting a hold of an Elan body on this side of the pond is IME, easy as pie. You just call up the bloke in the UK who makes them and pay him $4K quid and he airmails it to you. Otherwise it seems to be almost impossible.

Best,
Jonny Plus None :-)

Re: Re & Reing Elan side frames

PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:27 pm
by billwill
You might care to put your car type in your signature, or remember to explicitly say what type of Elan you are inquiring about in your messages.

Saves lots of confusion.. :shock:

Re: Re & Reing Elan side frames

PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:45 am
by JonnyPlus2
Here's my standard sig, I only suppressed it once.

Re: Re & Reing Elan side frames

PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:31 am
by elj221c
You might find some of Gary Anderson's posts helpful. Search Sill Latice or variatons. Here's a start...

lotus-chassis-f36/elan-door-surround-latice-yours-rotten-too-t15161-15.html

Then there's the Sows Ear. Worth a read.

lotus-chassis-f36/sows-ear-chassis-t24752.html

The job is one I have to do sometime. I wonder if Boss Motors would sell the frames?