Re: Some Thoughts
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:02 pm
Wickey wrote:Efficiently moderating a website is not difficult. As a previous company director sponsoring many websites it was something we would perform regularly and withdraw our sponsorship if they were allowed to get 'out of hand' with any use of bad language. Checking to see how well this is done can simply be achieved by using the website search engine and placing such selective words in the search field and see what posts have previously used bad language with no attempt to just simply remove them EVEN WHEN BEEN ASKED TO. Sadly this forum is badly moderated IMHO as far as 'longer/higher gear' members seem to be able to get away with it..........hiding behind their keyboards in some belief they are protected. I replied to one foul thread using words only that had been obviously acceptable to the forum as not previously removed.
No point in just preaching not to do it...........moderators need to fulfil their responsibilities especially when it is written in the rules, and set an example by getting the posts removed. It is so simple for anyone who controls the website. I don't intend for sure discussing this matter anymore in the 'private messages' btw
Thank you for your feedback.
I am going to decipher your message.
The forum is badly moderated for the following reasons:
1. The members use bad words and we do not edit every post that uses bad words.
2. We allow longer/higher gear members to get away with using bad words
3. You were recently moderated for using bad words.
So let me respond....
1. Being an engineer, I do not like working on people's guesses or assumptions. So I ran a series of queries against the database using 500 of the most common bad words. To see the words go to https://gist.github.com/jamiew/1112488.
The top twenty words, with frequency count, are:
hell 516
damn 394
bloody 283
bugger 276
butt 134
ass 96
shit 84
pissed 81
arse 64
piss 63
bitch 60
pissing 52
cock 46
bastard 42
dick 42
bum 41
anal 39
sex 36
willy 28
The top five make up 0.6% of the posts. The remaining words are 0.3% of the posts. Is this out of hand? It all depends.
The challenge is words can be dirty or clean depending on the use. Most use of the word anal is about being picky. i.e. He is anal about his paint job. Cock means a misalignment.
The question is, Are these words considered dirty? Growing up, my mum would have washed my mouth with soap for these, but language has changed in the last 50 years. Most of these words are considered common place. Do the members consider these words to be dirty and want them removed from the forum or prevented from using them on the forum?
2. Yes, we do allow our tenured members more leeway than a new member. Pretty much the way every club in the world works. We ask that all members treat others with respect.
3. You are complaining that the forums are not being moderated. Yet, you complain that you were just moderated for bad language. Kind of an oxymoron. Also, please remember you were moderated for personally attacking other members, not the word choices used.
If you find a post that has questionable language, please report it. We will review it and deal with it.
What are other members thoughts on words. Does the LotusElan.net have a problem with dirty langauge/words?