Lotus Elan

1970 S4 Elan SE w/rear end damage

PostPost by: pharriso » Sun Mar 27, 2022 7:09 am

Rick, Can you update us on what you did with your S4?

Hopefully it's being repaired....
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PostPost by: Elan45 » Sun Mar 27, 2022 2:09 pm

Stresscraxx,

You need to learn about Clecos. They are essentially temporary pop rivets. They come in various sizes, 3/16, 1/8, 5/32, 3/16 and I even have a few 1/4" ones. They are about 2 inches long and open up to about 1/4" and then close by spring. The most useful ones use a special pliers to squeeze , insert into the drilled holes, as you've described, and close. Do your repair, then grab the Cleco w/ the special plyers, squeeze and remove. I like using the 3/32 size and inserting directly into a fiberglass crack with small pieces of aluminum sheet on top and bottom of the crack.

Carrol Smith mentioned Clecos in his wonderful books, saying that "like peanuts, no one can have too many". So I store mine in peanut cans, multiple cans for different sizes. They are wonderful for aluminum sheet fabrication, their intended use. Try Aircraft Spruce for good pricing. Pegusus I think sells them and probably Eastwood.

When I was restoring my Eleven, I had access to a surplus store and I often would go there on my lunch w/ a small piece of aluminum w/ a 5/32 hole in it and a pair of Cleco plyers and try each used Cleco function in the hole. 10 cents apiece. I found it strange that the Eleven was assembled w/ 5/32, but I ended up w/ 3 cans of that size, enough that I did a trial assembly w/ Clecos before using the real thing permanently.

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PostPost by: tonyabacus » Sun Mar 27, 2022 2:22 pm

Good picture here of the different types of Cleco fasteners
https://eumro.co.uk/cleco-fasteners-skin-pins.aspx
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PostPost by: StressCraxx » Mon Mar 28, 2022 3:10 am

Elan45 wrote:Stresscraxx,

You need to learn about Clecos. They are essentially temporary pop rivets. They come in various sizes, 3/16, 1/8, 5/32, 3/16 and I even have a few 1/4" ones. They are about 2 inches long and open up to about 1/4" and then close by spring. The most useful ones use a special pliers to squeeze , insert into the drilled holes, as you've described, and close. Do your repair, then grab the Cleco w/ the special plyers, squeeze and remove. I like using the 3/32 size and inserting directly into a fiberglass crack with small pieces of aluminum sheet on top and bottom of the crack.

Carrol Smith mentioned Clecos in his wonderful books, saying that "like peanuts, no one can have too many". So I store mine in peanut cans, multiple cans for different sizes. They are wonderful for aluminum sheet fabrication, their intended use. Try Aircraft Spruce for good pricing. Pegusus I think sells them and probably Eastwood.

When I was restoring my Eleven, I had access to a surplus store and I often would go there on my lunch w/ a small piece of aluminum w/ a 5/32 hole in it and a pair of Cleco plyers and try each used Cleco function in the hole. 10 cents apiece. I found it strange that the Eleven was assembled w/ 5/32, but I ended up w/ 3 cans of that size, enough that I did a trial assembly w/ Clecos before using the real thing permanently.

Roger


Thanks so much, Roger. I didn't think of it at the time and didn't have the tools then. I have used clecos in the past when I helped strip and rebuild an SCCA GT1 Jag XKE. I did almost all the tin work, including building the flares and blending them into the original Jag wheel arches. I do have them now and just finished using them along with my strap duplicator to repair the belly pan of my Crossle Formula Ford after I slid sideways over curbing at my last race. They all worked a treat. Hop you enjoy the upcoming driving season!

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PostPost by: chuckathon » Fri Apr 01, 2022 12:39 am

pharriso wrote:Rick, Can you update us on what you did with your S4?

Hopefully it's being repaired....


I purchased the Elan and am doing the repairs. I have all the puzzle pieces in place and just need the time to start the fiberglassing. I will have it back on the road this calendar year. At least that is the challenge I made myself. :).
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PostPost by: 2mAn » Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:41 am

chuckathon wrote:
pharriso wrote:Rick, Can you update us on what you did with your S4?

Hopefully it's being repaired....


I purchased the Elan and am doing the repairs. I have all the puzzle pieces in place and just need the time to start the fiberglassing. I will have it back on the road this calendar year. At least that is the challenge I made myself. :).


Please start a thread with pictures of the progress (or continue this one if you'd prefer)
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