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Re: Silverstone Auctions - Bunch of Elans in Auction

PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:26 pm
by Sadbrewer
ClassicLotus wrote:Hi all,



I myself would not pay the premium for a particular previous owner, what do you think?


If I were a wealthy enough man I would buy Jim Clark's Elan regardless of cost.

Re: Silverstone Auctions - Bunch of Elans in Auction

PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 1:03 am
by elanfan1
Sadbrewer wrote:
ClassicLotus wrote:Hi all,



I myself would not pay the premium for a particular previous owner, what do you think?


If I were a wealthy enough man I would buy Jim Clark's Elan regardless of cost.



Why? There’s not a single molecule of his DNA in it, it’s a recreation.

Re: The Lotus Elan Auction of the Century

PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 2:30 am
by mark030358
trw99 wrote:Yes, Ken and mostly Neil Myers.

Tim



Ahhhh the watchful eye’s……..

Sellers/or/Peel car for me.

Cheers

C

Re: Silverstone Auctions - Bunch of Elans in Auction

PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:37 am
by Sadbrewer
elanfan1 wrote:
Sadbrewer wrote:
ClassicLotus wrote:Hi all,



I myself would not pay the premium for a particular previous owner, what do you think?


If I were a wealthy enough man I would buy Jim Clark's Elan regardless of cost.



Why? There’s not a single molecule of his DNA in it, it’s a recreation.


I suppose it depends on your values or sense of history, to me as a small child Clark was my absolute hero, to be able, all these years later to be a guardian, for a few years at least, of one of his possessions would be an honour... it's a small piece of history, a connection to the past...why do we cherish, collect or preserve anything old or with historical connections at all?
At least I have the satisfaction of knowing you'll not be bidding against me at the auction !!...not that I've two ha'pennies to rub together,

Re: The Lotus Elan Auction of the Century

PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 1:32 pm
by pharriso
Getting off topic (as usual)...

Depends on which Clark Elan we're talking about

If we're talking 997NUR, yes very little (if anything) that Clark saw or touched...

If we're talking Peter Windsor's ex-Clark Yellow FHC, yes I'd have that thank you very much !

Re: The Lotus Elan Auction of the Century

PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:53 pm
by elanfan1
Moot as nether are in the auction.

Re: The Lotus Elan Auction of the Century

PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:04 pm
by pharriso
elanfan1 wrote:Moot as nether are in the auction.


Yes, but you were discussing on it yesterday? "Why? There’s not a single molecule of his DNA in it, it’s a recreation."

Re: The Lotus Elan Auction of the Century

PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:37 pm
by Spyder fan
I’m Jim Clarke

Re: The Lotus Elan Auction of the Century

PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:30 pm
by pharriso
Spyder fan wrote:I’m Jim Clarke


In your head… that explains the driving!

Re: The Lotus Elan Auction of the Century

PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 9:23 pm
by Spyder fan
pharriso wrote:
Spyder fan wrote:I’m Jim Clarke


In your head… that explains the driving!


Okay

What I meant was…. I’m Spartucus….

Re: The Lotus Elan Auction of the Century

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:42 am
by richardcox_lotus
Spyder fan wrote:I’m Jim Clarke


Is that Jim Clark’s less successful cousin ?

Regards
Richard

Re: The Lotus Elan Auction of the Century

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:52 am
by Spyder fan
richardcox_lotus wrote:
Spyder fan wrote:I’m Jim Clarke


Is that Jim Clark’s less successful cousin ?

Regards
Richard

It was a pathetic attempt to add value to my own cars by changing my name by deed poll to one that is similar to an old famous racing driver 8)

Re: The Lotus Elan Auction of the Century

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:28 pm
by ClassicLotus
Sadbrewer wrote:
elanfan1 wrote:
Sadbrewer wrote:
If I were a wealthy enough man I would buy Jim Clark's Elan regardless of cost.



Why? There’s not a single molecule of his DNA in it, it’s a recreation.


I suppose it depends on your values or sense of history, to me as a small child Clark was my absolute hero, to be able, all these years later to be a guardian, for a few years at least, of one of his possessions would be an honour... it's a small piece of history, a connection to the past...why do we cherish, collect or preserve anything old or with historical connections at all?
At least I have the satisfaction of knowing you'll not be bidding against me at the auction !!...not that I've two ha'pennies to rub together,


As I was the one who raised the question I would like to add what I originally meant with it. In my opinion it isn't the particular previous owner who is important here. More than the previous owner of a car it is the time the car was developed, produced, ran, .. it's the haircuts, the clothes, the music, the environment, the global politics, the economy, the car itself, the traffic back then...

It just wouldn't be that important for me to say "it was Jim Clarks car". At least if this would cost me tens of thousands. Then I would rather say "Jim Clark, Jochen Rindt, and Colin Chapman used to drive one of these." And I would have the money to buy myself an Elite and say something similar about that. :wink:

Re: The Lotus Elan Auction of the Century

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 5:09 pm
by baileyman
There's a story on this page in part on a Seller's Elan. Same car?

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/XC8AAOSw ... -l1600.jpg

Zoom in, lower left. John

Re: The Lotus Elan Auction of the Century

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 5:28 pm
by Spyder fan
baileyman wrote:There's a story on this page in part on a Seller's Elan. Same car?

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/XC8AAOSw ... -l1600.jpg

Zoom in, lower left. John


Hi John,
Nice article, thanks for posting it. The story refers to another Elan that Sellers bought for Britt Ekland, and consigned to Shapecraft for them to convert to a fastback coupe. Unfortunately its not the car that’s in the auction.

This is the car in your article.

Image