S3 Restoration
Post by: glennmoule » Fri Nov 22, 2019 7:31 pm
Tested the windows this evening. Only one is responding so I will need to rebuild the motors. A fun little job that will be!
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Post by: The Veg » Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:12 pm
If they use the same motors as in the Plus 2, it is a GM motor and rebuilt units should be easily available for exchange, or at least they are over here so take that with a grain of salt.
You may also want to run an extra earth-wire from the motor directly to the chassis. Of all the things I did to refurbish my windows, that made made a bigger improvement by far in their operation than anything else.
You may also want to run an extra earth-wire from the motor directly to the chassis. Of all the things I did to refurbish my windows, that made made a bigger improvement by far in their operation than anything else.
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Post by: glennmoule » Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:21 pm
Thanks Veg and noted.
I will run another wire and test it.
I think these motors are a ford escort wiper motor originally.
Easily repairable so shouldn?t take me too much effort to get them back in action.
I will run another wire and test it.
I think these motors are a ford escort wiper motor originally.
Easily repairable so shouldn?t take me too much effort to get them back in action.
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Post by: englishmaninwales » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:38 am
Edited, as detail on wiring was wrong!
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Post by: Matt Elan » Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:55 pm
The Elan S3/S4 window motors are different to the Plus 2. The Elan's motor was originally a Cortina wiper motor unit - which is probably the same as an Escort!
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Post by: glennmoule » Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:14 pm
As we speak I am restoring the suspension parts. They are starting rough and ending up like new.
Crack tested and painted.
Crack tested and painted.
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Post by: Mazzini » Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:27 pm
Matt Elan wrote:The Elan S3/S4 window motors are different to the Plus 2. The Elan's motor was originally a Cortina wiper motor unit - which is probably the same as an Escort!
I think originally they came from an Anglia, but I could be mistaken.
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Post by: glennmoule » Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:20 pm
Cam cover masked and nearly ready for the paint booth.
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Post by: Certified Lotus » Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:27 pm
Nice progress Glenn
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Post by: Matt Elan » Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:25 pm
Re the window motor, Roy McGregor who developed the S3 and designed the window mechanism says he started of with a Cortina wipe motor - see http://www.ferraritestarossa.net/clublo ... index.html
However, I don't doubt that a Cortina motor is the same as an Anglia....
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However, I don't doubt that a Cortina motor is the same as an Anglia....
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Post by: Matt Elan » Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:33 pm
Which leads us to another question - who made the S3 window motor? It doesn't appear in the Lucas parts lists for the Elan (nor does the Plus 2 unit) so does anyone know who supplied them to Ford for use in the Anglia/Cortina/Escort or did Ford make them themselves?
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Post by: glennmoule » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:49 pm
Tonight?s quest. Full strip, check, prep and paint then assemble.
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