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Post by: Brian Walton » Thu Dec 02, 1999 1:39 am
Ref LBA and ECS.........haven't a clue. ECS changes to EK at times
so could be a batch notation. There is also RK and a number after
some of the cars. Has anybody any idea?
so could be a batch notation. There is also RK and a number after
some of the cars. Has anybody any idea?
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Post by: "Paul Lane, Jr." » Fri Dec 10, 1999 10:13 pm
Doit, doit.
Paul
Brian Walton wrote:
Paul
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Post by: jcocking » Sat Dec 11, 1999 1:55 am
Hi Everyone,
Been on the road all week. If Mike will provide the information, that would
be great. I have not asked anyone at Lotus for the information yet. I have
been expanding the Owner registry to include past ownership history. The
effort is still in the test stage. The new registry will include a more in
depth form that allows a person to indicate dates of ownership and to
indicate if they are the original owner. This will allow the ownership of a
can be traced. I am hoping to have it operational by 1/1/2000. If the data
can be obtained and put in any excell type of format, I then can import the
data.
jeff
Been on the road all week. If Mike will provide the information, that would
be great. I have not asked anyone at Lotus for the information yet. I have
been expanding the Owner registry to include past ownership history. The
effort is still in the test stage. The new registry will include a more in
depth form that allows a person to indicate dates of ownership and to
indicate if they are the original owner. This will allow the ownership of a
can be traced. I am hoping to have it operational by 1/1/2000. If the data
can be obtained and put in any excell type of format, I then can import the
data.
jeff
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Post by: mike at sapphire.co.im » Sat Dec 11, 1999 8:55 am
Hi all
I've been observing this debate about a VIN number lists and other
comprehensive details regarding our beloved Loti.
A note of caution!!
The freedom of access to information is great and we listers are proving it
daily no matter were we are located in the world.
If this list is published what are the risks of certain elements copying
someone elses chassis engine no and other details and creating non-authentic
models????
This sort of thing is not unknown here in the UK and I'm sure that the
development of Classic Car Values has been a major factor in this. I for one
would be very reluctant to publicly declare the birthright of my Elan!
Food for thought
Mike & Jason Farmer - 1971 Elan Sprint DHC and 1971 FHC Elan Sprint awaiting
restoration - UK
I've been observing this debate about a VIN number lists and other
comprehensive details regarding our beloved Loti.
A note of caution!!
The freedom of access to information is great and we listers are proving it
daily no matter were we are located in the world.
If this list is published what are the risks of certain elements copying
someone elses chassis engine no and other details and creating non-authentic
models????
This sort of thing is not unknown here in the UK and I'm sure that the
development of Classic Car Values has been a major factor in this. I for one
would be very reluctant to publicly declare the birthright of my Elan!
Food for thought
Mike & Jason Farmer - 1971 Elan Sprint DHC and 1971 FHC Elan Sprint awaiting
restoration - UK
- mike at sapphire.co.im
Post by: Brian Walton » Sat Dec 11, 1999 3:10 pm
Jeff would you like me to contact Lotus (Mike Pomfret) to see if the
master Vin list for both the Elan and +2's will be available. I can
think about the format over the Christmas break (at last) and set it
up on a link site/ searchable database here in New Zealand. The
downloading is what we do for other customers (gasp!), but it is
within the bounds of reason. Let me know what you feel.
master Vin list for both the Elan and +2's will be available. I can
think about the format over the Christmas break (at last) and set it
up on a link site/ searchable database here in New Zealand. The
downloading is what we do for other customers (gasp!), but it is
within the bounds of reason. Let me know what you feel.
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Post by: jcocking » Sat Dec 11, 1999 4:00 pm
Hi everyone,
I will agree with the concern. The next evolution of the owners registry
will be within a password protected section on LotusElan.net. Privacy
issues are important. The other side of the discussion, is if someone wants
to create a bogus car with switched or made up VINs, it will be done.
jeff
I will agree with the concern. The next evolution of the owners registry
will be within a password protected section on LotusElan.net. Privacy
issues are important. The other side of the discussion, is if someone wants
to create a bogus car with switched or made up VINs, it will be done.
jeff
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Post by: lotustony » Sun Dec 12, 1999 5:19 am
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Farmer
I don't know why someone would want to copy the numbers
of an existing and club-registered car. That would be an incredible mistake
on the part of a replicator . . . any existing car would likely have a
better "paper trail" of credibility than could be faked by the copyist. The
real threat has been explored by separate marque organizations dedicated to
three of my Lotus cars: a Lotus S1 Eleven, a Lotus 23
and a Lotus Elan 26R. All are rare, all are expensive and all are
relatively easy to replicate. The threat???? The threat is that in
publishing a list of known numbers, the UNKNOWN NUMBERS can be assumed
and left vulnerable to replication. There is a benefit to the replicator in
that then numbered car can be raced or sold for racing much easier than an
unnumbered car. I can't see where the publishing of
NORMAL, non-rare Elan numbers , like my S1, poses any threat.
Tony in Texas
26 S1 00395 Elan
From: Mike Farmer
I don't know why someone would want to copy the numbers
of an existing and club-registered car. That would be an incredible mistake
on the part of a replicator . . . any existing car would likely have a
better "paper trail" of credibility than could be faked by the copyist. The
real threat has been explored by separate marque organizations dedicated to
three of my Lotus cars: a Lotus S1 Eleven, a Lotus 23
and a Lotus Elan 26R. All are rare, all are expensive and all are
relatively easy to replicate. The threat???? The threat is that in
publishing a list of known numbers, the UNKNOWN NUMBERS can be assumed
and left vulnerable to replication. There is a benefit to the replicator in
that then numbered car can be raced or sold for racing much easier than an
unnumbered car. I can't see where the publishing of
NORMAL, non-rare Elan numbers , like my S1, poses any threat.
Tony in Texas
26 S1 00395 Elan
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Post by: Have Been A Good Boy < » Sun Dec 12, 1999 5:49 am
Tony Claus,
Tony Claus wrote:
I've been a good boy all year, have sold me TVR and need a car to go back and
forth from here to the post office and the bank. You think u (singularly) could
give me the 23 for a Chrissy Pressy?
Born on the 23rd of March and am therefore most deserving,
Ronnie Boy
http://www.lotuscarclub.org/lotus23.htm
--
Lotus Web Shop
http://www.lotuswebshop.com
Tony Claus wrote:
I've been a good boy all year, have sold me TVR and need a car to go back and
forth from here to the post office and the bank. You think u (singularly) could
give me the 23 for a Chrissy Pressy?
Born on the 23rd of March and am therefore most deserving,
Ronnie Boy
http://www.lotuscarclub.org/lotus23.htm
--
Lotus Web Shop
http://www.lotuswebshop.com
- Have Been A Good Boy <
Post by: Have Been A Good Boy < » Sun Dec 12, 1999 6:47 am
Tony Clark Claus wrote:
Dear Santa,
There are exceptions to all rules! Our baseball teams were really good (and I
know where you can get Yank/Met tix way under 800% over face). Honestly, Santa
Tony, I was really good over the last year. Can't you help me Santa?
23less,
Ronnie Boy
Dear Santa,
There are exceptions to all rules! Our baseball teams were really good (and I
know where you can get Yank/Met tix way under 800% over face). Honestly, Santa
Tony, I was really good over the last year. Can't you help me Santa?
23less,
Ronnie Boy
- Have Been A Good Boy <
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