Lotus Elan

Update... Re: Stil no luck--- Deep vibration at idle problem

PostPost by: davidwinegar » Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:20 pm

I just checked the gear box mount and it seems to be ok--I also don't
see any play in the drive shaft--it is secure. I tried to start it
and it turns over but the thumping sound is so bad that I just did not
want to keep it running as there is certainly something wrong. Anyway
to check the flywheel without pulling the engine out?

David

--- In ***@***.***, "les mellor" <[email protected]> wrote:
Loose flywheel.







----- Original Message -----
From: david_c_w
To: ***@***.***
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:34 PM
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Re: Stil no luck--- Deep vibration at
idle problem



Hi Tony,

Thanks for the reply. Just to clarify the situation with my car is
that the ibration is at its worst when it is in neutral and at idle.
At speed it seems to be about normal. So if I understand correctly,
this does not point to the prop shaft as the car would rightly need to
be moving for this to be a problem.

I guess I am back to looking at the mounts.

David

--- In ***@***.***, "Tony Vaccaro" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The only way the drive shaft vibration would not be felt is if the
car is
> not moving...and in neutral. Is is being felt when the car is NOT
moving?
>
>
>
> I had a very deep vibration on my Elan..tried everything. Got to the
point
> where I could remove the prop shaft in under 20 minutes. Had it
balanced
> many times.but it was only when I took it to a new digital
balancer..that it
> got fixed. It was out of balance.
>
>
>
> Tony Vaccaro
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: ***@***.***lto:***@***.***
On Behalf
> Of david_c_w
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 3:33 PM
> To: ***@***.***
> Subject: [LotusElan.net] Re: Stil no luck--- Deep vibration at idle
problem
>
>
>
> HI Rod,
>
> Just wonderng would the u-joint be vibrating even when not in gear?
>
> Also, how the heck do I get at it to check it?
>
> Still haven't yet had a chance to check the other mounts so
those are

> also possibilities.
>
> David
>
> --- In ***@***.*** <mailto:lotuselan%40yahoogroups.com>
ps.com, Rod
> Bean <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > David,
> >
> > Try the u-joint in the drive shaft. It's not easy to remove if
that's

> > the problem but I suspect it might be.
> >
> > Rod Bean
> > S1 & S2 Elans
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>







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PostPost by: "Roger Sieling" » Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:40 pm

David,

I suppose we're running out of possibilities. What I'm beginning to
wonder is that we've been looking for something banging into some other
object, and that does have to happen to get the noise, but I'm starting
to wonder if maybe your engine has gone onto 3 cylinders at idle and the
noise is a result of the engine moving excessively (shaking) from uneven
idle.

So, have you been playing w/ the carbies or maybe broken a spark plug
lead while getting at the engine mount underneath the carbs. Or, did you
remove the carbs to make it easier to get at the mount and now have an
air leak at the O-ring seals to the manifold. Also, if you removed the
carbs, the carbs need to be resyncronized, as the connector between the
two throttle shafts will never go back the exact same way. If that is
the case, it could be that one carb is completely closed at idle and you
are only running on 2 cylinders at idle. Any of those things will cause
rough idle, that might seem to clear at higher engine speeds.

Roger

>> ***@***.*** 9/12/2006 8:16 AM >>>
I just checked the gear box mount and it seems to be ok--I also don't

see any play in the drive shaft--it is secure. I tried to start it
and it turns over but the thumping sound is so bad that I just did not
want to keep it running as there is certainly something wrong. Anyway
to check the flywheel without pulling the engine out?

David

--- In ***@***.***, "les mellor" <[email protected]> wrote:
Loose flywheel.







----- Original Message -----
From: david_c_w
To: ***@***.***
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:34 PM
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Re: Stil no luck--- Deep vibration at
idle problem



Hi Tony,

Thanks for the reply. Just to clarify the situation with my car is
that the ibration is at its worst when it is in neutral and at
idle.

At speed it seems to be about normal. So if I understand
correctly,

this does not point to the prop shaft as the car would rightly need
to

be moving for this to be a problem.

I guess I am back to looking at the mounts.

David

--- In ***@***.***, "Tony Vaccaro" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The only way the drive shaft vibration would not be felt is if
the

car is
> not moving...and in neutral. Is is being felt when the car is
NOT

moving?
>
>
>
> I had a very deep vibration on my Elan..tried everything. Got to
the

point
> where I could remove the prop shaft in under 20 minutes. Had it
balanced
> many times.but it was only when I took it to a new digital
balancer..that it
> got fixed. It was out of balance.
>
>
>
> Tony Vaccaro
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: ***@***.***
[mailto:***@***.***

On Behalf
> Of david_c_w
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 3:33 PM
> To: ***@***.***
> Subject: [LotusElan.net] Re: Stil no luck--- Deep vibration at
idle

problem
>
>
>
> HI Rod,
>
> Just wonderng would the u-joint be vibrating even when not in
gear?

>
> Also, how the heck do I get at it to check it?
>
> Still haven't yet had a chance to check the other mounts so
those are

> also possibilities.
>
> David
>
> --- In ***@***.*** <mailto:lotuselan%40yahoogroups.com>
ps.com, Rod
> Bean <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > David,
> >
> > Try the u-joint in the drive shaft. It's not easy to remove if
that's

> > the problem but I suspect it might be.
> >
> > Rod Bean
> > S1 & S2 Elans
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>







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PostPost by: tvacc » Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:49 pm

No.you really cannot check the flywheel completely. I am beginning to think
you have a rod bolt coming loose and the rod is starting to move off the
crank.





Tony Vaccaro



_____

From: ***@***.***lto:***@***.*** Behalf
Of david_c_w
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:17 AM
To: ***@***.***
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Update... Re: Stil no luck--- Deep vibration at
idle problem



I just checked the gear box mount and it seems to be ok--I also don't
see any play in the drive shaft--it is secure. I tried to start it
and it turns over but the thumping sound is so bad that I just did not
want to keep it running as there is certainly something wrong. Anyway
to check the flywheel without pulling the engine out?

David

--- In ***@***.*** <mailto:lotuselan%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com, "les
mellor" <[email protected]> wrote:
Loose flywheel.







----- Original Message -----
From: david_c_w
To: ***@***.*** <mailto:lotuselan%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:34 PM
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Re: Stil no luck--- Deep vibration at
idle problem



Hi Tony,

Thanks for the reply. Just to clarify the situation with my car is
that the ibration is at its worst when it is in neutral and at idle.
At speed it seems to be about normal. So if I understand correctly,
this does not point to the prop shaft as the car would rightly need to
be moving for this to be a problem.

I guess I am back to looking at the mounts.

David

--- In ***@***.*** <mailto:lotuselan%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com,
"Tony Vaccaro" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> The only way the drive shaft vibration would not be felt is if the
car is
> not moving...and in neutral. Is is being felt when the car is NOT
moving?
>
>
>
> I had a very deep vibration on my Elan..tried everything. Got to the
point
> where I could remove the prop shaft in under 20 minutes. Had it
balanced
> many times.but it was only when I took it to a new digital
balancer..that it
> got fixed. It was out of balance.
>
>
>
> Tony Vaccaro
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: ***@***.*** <mailto:lotuselan%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com
[mailto:***@***.*** <mailto:lotuselan%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com]

On Behalf
> Of david_c_w
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 3:33 PM
> To: ***@***.*** <mailto:lotuselan%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com
> Subject: [LotusElan.net] Re: Stil no luck--- Deep vibration at idle
problem
>
>
>
> HI Rod,
>
> Just wonderng would the u-joint be vibrating even when not in gear?
>
> Also, how the heck do I get at it to check it?
>
> Still haven't yet had a chance to check the other mounts so
those are

> also possibilities.
>
> David
>
> --- In ***@***.*** <mailto:lotuselan%40yahoogroups.com>
ps.com, Rod
> Bean <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > David,
> >
> > Try the u-joint in the drive shaft. It's not easy to remove if
that's

> > the problem but I suspect it might be.
> >
> > Rod Bean
> > S1 & S2 Elans
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>







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PostPost by: lotuselanman » Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:22 pm

LOOSE FLYWHEEL !!



----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Vaccaro
To: ***@***.***
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:45 AM
Subject: RE: [LotusElan.net] Update... Re: Stil no luck--- Deep vibration at idle problem


No.you really cannot check the flywheel completely. I am beginning to think
you have a rod bolt coming loose and the rod is starting to move off the
crank.

Tony Vaccaro

_____

From: ***@***.***lto:***@***.*** Behalf
Of david_c_w
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:17 AM
To: ***@***.***
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Update... Re: Stil no luck--- Deep vibration at
idle problem

I just checked the gear box mount and it seems to be ok--I also don't
see any play in the drive shaft--it is secure. I tried to start it
and it turns over but the thumping sound is so bad that I just did not
want to keep it running as there is certainly something wrong. Anyway
to check the flywheel without pulling the engine out?

David

--- In ***@***.*** <mailto:lotuselan%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com, "les
mellor" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Loose flywheel.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: david_c_w
> To: ***@***.*** <mailto:lotuselan%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:34 PM
> Subject: [LotusElan.net] Re: Stil no luck--- Deep vibration at
idle problem
>
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> Thanks for the reply. Just to clarify the situation with my car is
> that the ibration is at its worst when it is in neutral and at idle.
> At speed it seems to be about normal. So if I understand correctly,
> this does not point to the prop shaft as the car would rightly need to
> be moving for this to be a problem.
>
> I guess I am back to looking at the mounts.
>
> David
>
> --- In ***@***.*** <mailto:lotuselan%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com,
"Tony Vaccaro" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > The only way the drive shaft vibration would not be felt is if the
> car is
> > not moving...and in neutral. Is is being felt when the car is NOT
> moving?
> >
> >
> >
> > I had a very deep vibration on my Elan..tried everything. Got to the
> point
> > where I could remove the prop shaft in under 20 minutes. Had it
> balanced
> > many times.but it was only when I took it to a new digital
> balancer..that it
> > got fixed. It was out of balance.
> >
> >
> >
> > Tony Vaccaro
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: ***@***.*** <mailto:lotuselan%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com
[mailto:***@***.*** <mailto:lotuselan%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com]
> On Behalf
> > Of david_c_w
> > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 3:33 PM
> > To: ***@***.*** <mailto:lotuselan%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com
> > Subject: [LotusElan.net] Re: Stil no luck--- Deep vibration at idle
> problem
> >
> >
> >
> > HI Rod,
> >
> > Just wonderng would the u-joint be vibrating even when not in gear?
> >
> > Also, how the heck do I get at it to check it?
> >
> > Still haven't yet had a chance to check the other mounts so
those are
> > also possibilities.
> >
> > David
> >
> > --- In ***@***.*** <mailto:lotuselan%40yahoogroups.com>
> ps.com, Rod
> > Bean <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > David,
> > >
> > > Try the u-joint in the drive shaft. It's not easy to remove if
that's
> > > the problem but I suspect it might be.
> > >
> > > Rod Bean
> > > S1 & S2 Elans
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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PostPost by: lotuselanman » Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:23 pm

LOOSE FLYWHEEL !!
----- Original Message -----
From: david_c_w
To: ***@***.***
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:16 PM
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Update... Re: Stil no luck--- Deep vibration at idle problem


I just checked the gear box mount and it seems to be ok--I also don't
see any play in the drive shaft--it is secure. I tried to start it
and it turns over but the thumping sound is so bad that I just did not
want to keep it running as there is certainly something wrong. Anyway
to check the flywheel without pulling the engine out?

David

--- In ***@***.***, "les mellor" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Loose flywheel.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: david_c_w
> To: ***@***.***
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:34 PM
> Subject: [LotusElan.net] Re: Stil no luck--- Deep vibration at
idle problem
>
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> Thanks for the reply. Just to clarify the situation with my car is
> that the ibration is at its worst when it is in neutral and at idle.
> At speed it seems to be about normal. So if I understand correctly,
> this does not point to the prop shaft as the car would rightly need to
> be moving for this to be a problem.
>
> I guess I am back to looking at the mounts.
>
> David
>
> --- In ***@***.***, "Tony Vaccaro" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > The only way the drive shaft vibration would not be felt is if the
> car is
> > not moving...and in neutral. Is is being felt when the car is NOT
> moving?
> >
> >
> >
> > I had a very deep vibration on my Elan..tried everything. Got to the
> point
> > where I could remove the prop shaft in under 20 minutes. Had it
> balanced
> > many times.but it was only when I took it to a new digital
> balancer..that it
> > got fixed. It was out of balance.
> >
> >
> >
> > Tony Vaccaro
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: ***@***.***lto:***@***.***
> On Behalf
> > Of david_c_w
> > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 3:33 PM
> > To: ***@***.***
> > Subject: [LotusElan.net] Re: Stil no luck--- Deep vibration at idle
> problem
> >
> >
> >
> > HI Rod,
> >
> > Just wonderng would the u-joint be vibrating even when not in gear?
> >
> > Also, how the heck do I get at it to check it?
> >
> > Still haven't yet had a chance to check the other mounts so
those are
> > also possibilities.
> >
> > David
> >
> > --- In ***@***.*** <mailto:lotuselan%40yahoogroups.com>
> ps.com, Rod
> > Bean <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > David,
> > >
> > > Try the u-joint in the drive shaft. It's not easy to remove if
that's
> > > the problem but I suspect it might be.
> > >
> > > Rod Bean
> > > S1 & S2 Elans
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
----------------------------------------------------------
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>
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PostPost by: davidwinegar » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:15 pm

Flywheel coming loose certainly may be the case as it would make
sense. I will let you all know what I find when I pull the engine.
I'm just trying to track down a portable engine lift and find a time
to do it.

Thanks again to all who offered their thoughts and wish me luck.

David

--- In ***@***.***, "les mellor" <[email protected]> wrote:
LOOSE FLYWHEEL !!
----- Original Message -----
From: david_c_w
To: ***@***.***
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:16 PM
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Update... Re: Stil no luck--- Deep
vibration at idle problem



I just checked the gear box mount and it seems to be ok--I also don't
see any play in the drive shaft--it is secure. I tried to start it
and it turns over but the thumping sound is so bad that I just did not
want to keep it running as there is certainly something wrong. Anyway
to check the flywheel without pulling the engine out?

David

--- In ***@***.***, "les mellor" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Loose flywheel.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: david_c_w
> To: ***@***.***
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:34 PM
> Subject: [LotusElan.net] Re: Stil no luck--- Deep vibration at
idle problem
>
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> Thanks for the reply. Just to clarify the situation with my car is
> that the ibration is at its worst when it is in neutral and at
idle.

> At speed it seems to be about normal. So if I understand correctly,
> this does not point to the prop shaft as the car would rightly
need to

> be moving for this to be a problem.
>
> I guess I am back to looking at the mounts.
>
> David
>
> --- In ***@***.***, "Tony Vaccaro" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > The only way the drive shaft vibration would not be felt is if the
> car is
> > not moving...and in neutral. Is is being felt when the car is NOT
> moving?
> >
> >
> >
> > I had a very deep vibration on my Elan..tried everything. Got
to the

> point
> > where I could remove the prop shaft in under 20 minutes. Had it
> balanced
> > many times.but it was only when I took it to a new digital
> balancer..that it
> > got fixed. It was out of balance.
> >
> >
> >
> > Tony Vaccaro
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: ***@***.***lto:***@***.***
> On Behalf
> > Of david_c_w
> > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 3:33 PM
> > To: ***@***.***
> > Subject: [LotusElan.net] Re: Stil no luck--- Deep vibration at
idle

> problem
> >
> >
> >
> > HI Rod,
> >
> > Just wonderng would the u-joint be vibrating even when not in
gear?

> >
> > Also, how the heck do I get at it to check it?
> >
> > Still haven't yet had a chance to check the other mounts so
those are
> > also possibilities.
> >
> > David
> >
> > --- In ***@***.*** <mailto:lotuselan%40yahoogroups.com>
> ps.com, Rod
> > Bean <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > David,
> > >
> > > Try the u-joint in the drive shaft. It's not easy to remove if
that's
> > > the problem but I suspect it might be.
> > >
> > > Rod Bean
> > > S1 & S2 Elans
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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PostPost by: "Roger Sieling" » Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:09 pm

David,

You know you can take the sheet metal cover off the bottom of the
bellhousing (4 x 1/4-20 screws) to have access to the flywheel. I would
tend to think you would get a lot of noise when the starter was cranking
the engine over if the f'wheel were loose.

All the talk about bolt strengths made me remember a poor application
for Gr8 hardware and that is to attach the flywheel to the crankshaft.
I've seen several engines with Gr8 and "Supertanium" brand cap screws
had failed in this application. It pretty well wrecks an aluminum
flywheel in doing so. Good luck.

Roger

>> ***@***.*** 9/13/2006 2:15 PM >>>
Flywheel coming loose certainly may be the case as it would make

sense. I will let you all know what I find when I pull the engine.
I'm just trying to track down a portable engine lift and find a time
to do it.

Thanks again to all who offered their thoughts and wish me luck.

David

--- In ***@***.***, "les mellor" <[email protected]> wrote:
LOOSE FLYWHEEL !!
----- Original Message -----
From: david_c_w
To: ***@***.***
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:16 PM
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Update... Re: Stil no luck--- Deep
vibration at idle problem



I just checked the gear box mount and it seems to be ok--I also
don't

see any play in the drive shaft--it is secure. I tried to start it
and it turns over but the thumping sound is so bad that I just did
not

want to keep it running as there is certainly something wrong.
Anyway

to check the flywheel without pulling the engine out?

David

--- In ***@***.***, "les mellor" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> Loose flywheel.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: david_c_w
> To: ***@***.***
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:34 PM
> Subject: [LotusElan.net] Re: Stil no luck--- Deep vibration at
idle problem
>
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> Thanks for the reply. Just to clarify the situation with my car
is

> that the ibration is at its worst when it is in neutral and at
idle.

> At speed it seems to be about normal. So if I understand
correctly,

> this does not point to the prop shaft as the car would rightly
need to

> be moving for this to be a problem.
>
> I guess I am back to looking at the mounts.
>
> David
>
> --- In ***@***.***, "Tony Vaccaro" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > The only way the drive shaft vibration would not be felt is if
the

> car is
> > not moving...and in neutral. Is is being felt when the car is
NOT

> moving?
> >
> >
> >
> > I had a very deep vibration on my Elan..tried everything. Got
to the

> point
> > where I could remove the prop shaft in under 20 minutes. Had
it

> balanced
> > many times.but it was only when I took it to a new digital
> balancer..that it
> > got fixed. It was out of balance.
> >
> >
> >
> > Tony Vaccaro
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: ***@***.***
[mailto:***@***.***

> On Behalf
> > Of david_c_w
> > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 3:33 PM
> > To: ***@***.***
> > Subject: [LotusElan.net] Re: Stil no luck--- Deep vibration at
idle

> problem
> >
> >
> >
> > HI Rod,
> >
> > Just wonderng would the u-joint be vibrating even when not in
gear?

> >
> > Also, how the heck do I get at it to check it?
> >
> > Still haven't yet had a chance to check the other mounts so
those are
> > also possibilities.
> >
> > David
> >
> > --- In ***@***.***
<mailto:lotuselan%40yahoogroups.com>

> ps.com, Rod
> > Bean <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > David,
> > >
> > > Try the u-joint in the drive shaft. It's not easy to remove
if

that's
> > > the problem but I suspect it might be.
> > >
> > > Rod Bean
> > > S1 & S2 Elans
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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