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Starter motor questions

PostPost by: Jon Eckman » Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:41 pm

Went to start up the '66 S3 SE the other day and got what sounded like
an initial engagment of the starting gear followed by a whizzing type
noise. Never had a problem with what appears to be the stock starter
up to this point. I rocked the car to move the flywheel ring gear
along, and it started right up. Initially, I thought it may be a tooth
problem on the ring gear, but it's gotten progressively worse to the
point that the rocking no longer works. The battery is relatively new,
and next I'll check all the connections I can find leading up to the
starter. Any other ideas of what to look for before (if I have to)
pull the starter?

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PostPost by: TYPE45 at aol.com » Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:14 pm

Jon,

Pray that it's the starter. If it's the ring gear, you'll be pulling more
than the starter out!

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PostPost by: Guest » Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:36 pm

Jon

The engagement you hear is probably the solenoid behind the dash
clicking in. The wizzing means that the Bendix gear has not engaged with
the starter. I would first check all the connections as you said and
that the starter is bolted securely to the bell housing.

Pulling the starter is not very hard and you could find that it is a
broken Bendix gear, this is not that uncommon.

Rod

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Subject: [LotusElan.net] Starter motor questions

Went to start up the '66 S3 SE the other day and got what sounded like
an initial engagment of the starting gear followed by a whizzing type
noise. Never had a problem with what appears to be the stock starter
up to this point. I rocked the car to move the flywheel ring gear
along, and it started right up. Initially, I thought it may be a tooth
problem on the ring gear, but it's gotten progressively worse to the
point that the rocking no longer works. The battery is relatively new,
and next I'll check all the connections I can find leading up to the
starter. Any other ideas of what to look for before (if I have to)
pull the starter?

Jon Eckman
Guest
 

PostPost by: Lincoln62 » Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:25 am

The Lotus starter is notorious for sticking. Some people make the
mistake of lubricating the bendix (they should run dry) which eventually
leads to dust getting trapped inside and stops it working. Hope this is
all that's wrong with yours.

The starters are very common, early Minis have the exact same starter,
the Cortina/Escort starter can also be used if you cut off the third
mounting web. I have a Cortina starter in my S2.

If you have top take it out it is easier from underneath the car. Also,
a tip for getting the top bolt back in (it can be very difficult to get
at), get a piece of heater hose a little longer than the starter and big
enough to fit the head of the bolt inside, push the bolt head in one end
and insert a rod (metal or wood, anything stiff will do) to make it
stiff and you can use this to get the bolt started. Once it is started
a socket will do the rest.

Good luck
Peter

lizzie5412 wrote:

Went to start up the '66 S3 SE the other day and got what sounded like
an initial engagment of the starting gear followed by a whizzing type
noise. Never had a problem with what appears to be the stock starter
up to this point. I rocked the car to move the flywheel ring gear
along, and it started right up. Initially, I thought it may be a tooth
problem on the ring gear, but it's gotten progressively worse to the
point that the rocking no longer works. The battery is relatively new,
and next I'll check all the connections I can find leading up to the
starter. Any other ideas of what to look for before (if I have to)
pull the starter?

Jon Eckman
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PostPost by: "Roger Sieling" » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:06 pm

Remove the starter from the car, rotate the bendix by hand and you will
see the threaded advance inside the bendix, which causes the starter
pinion to engage. Clean and lubricate this thread inside the pinion with
a light spray lub like CRC or Triflow (WD-40 will do in a pinch). Of
course examine everything for excessive wear while apart, but normally
the condition you've described is due to lack of lubrication.

Roger
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PostPost by: "Timothy R Dafforn&q » Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:19 pm

Alternatively buy a preengaged starter..

(Newly converted Lucas starter user).

Tim



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Remove the starter from the car, rotate the bendix by hand and you will
see the threaded advance inside the bendix, which causes the starter
pinion to engage. Clean and lubricate this thread inside the pinion with
a light spray lub like CRC or Triflow (WD-40 will do in a pinch). Of
course examine everything for excessive wear while apart, but normally
the condition you've described is due to lack of lubrication.

Roger
"Timothy R Dafforn&q
 

PostPost by: Bill Barry » Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:01 pm

"Some people make the mistake of lubricating the bendix (they should run
dry) which eventually
leads to dust getting trapped inside and stops it working."

"Clean and lubricate this thread inside the pinion with
a light spray lub like CRC or Triflow (WD-40 will do in a pinch)."


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