Lotus Elan

Super safety

PostPost by: pinsx3 » Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:29 pm

I have a super safety:

It has a bladder in the fuel tank, rocker switches instead of toggles
(basically an S4 dash), bolted down seats (no longer tip forward), a
dual circuit master cylinder and a collapsible steering wheel. Mine has
bolt on wheels. It also has the SS badge. This is all explained in the
"super safety" supplement to the owner's manual, which I also have.

Pete

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PostPost by: "Roger Sieling" » Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:53 pm

Peter,

I thought you had an S1? Did you trade the S1 off to get the SS?

Are you sure about the bladder in the fuel tank? I've never heard of any Elan w/ that feature. Is there a removeable panel on the tank to get it inside? How does your fuel gauge work?

Also, I think the SS dash is different from the S4 dash (not owning an S4, I'm not 100% sure), but on the SS dash, the instrument holes are counterbored so that the instrument rims are flush with the surface of the dash, rather than protruding above the surface in the normal way. The SS Elan is the only vehicle I know of w/ this feature.

Roger

>> ***@***.*** 1/27/2006 1:28 PM >>>
I have a super safety:


It has a bladder in the fuel tank, rocker switches instead of toggles
(basically an S4 dash), bolted down seats (no longer tip forward), a
dual circuit master cylinder and a collapsible steering wheel. Mine has
bolt on wheels. It also has the SS badge. This is all explained in the
"super safety" supplement to the owner's manual, which I also have.

Pete

68 SS elan dhc
64 26R replica not even clost to being "ss"
"Roger Sieling"
 

PostPost by: TYPE45 at aol.com » Fri Jan 27, 2006 7:28 pm

In a message dated 1/27/06 12:53:27 PM, ***@***.***es:

<< I think the SS dash is different from the S4 dash (not owning an S4, I'm
not 100% sure), but on the SS dash, the instrument holes are counterbored so
that the instrument rims are flush with the surface of the dash, rather than
protruding above the surface in the normal way. >>

Roger,

I recently installed an ammeter where the fuel gauge is on my S4. When I
went to install the fuel gauge between the radio and the glove box, I went to
great pains to countersink the new hole I drilled so that the installation would
match that of the other gauges. So all of the gauge holes have a step in them
and the bezels are flush with the dash surface. Just thought you'd like to
know.

Frank Howard
'71 S4 SE
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PostPost by: StressCraxx » Sat Jan 28, 2006 5:53 pm

I'm convinced I have a very early Super Safety as well.

My VIN is 45/7279, yes about 120 VINs before the "official" series. At this time, they were building about 100-120 elans per month.

I have seen another elan with a VIN of 45/7248 locally, that had the series 3 components.

"Collapsable" steering column, dash with recessed gauges, rocker switches, dual master cylinder, the unique interior door release latches, seats bolted down, do not tip forward. The side marker reflectors are still there too. I also have the SS badges too, no badges that say "S3".

According to Patrick Peal, mine was delivered with bolt on wheels to a dealer in Pennsylvania in November 1967. Somewhere in its life, it acquired conventional eared knock-offs.

Remember, the factory assembled cars with parts acquired from various sources. Somtimes the parts used were from the sources that still extended credit with liberal terms and good ol' Colin stretched the terms much further to finance the race teams. He often wore out his good will and credit line. Some changes were made based on availability of the parts required. I know first hand that any of the Lotus companies were "Cash on Delivery" with my employer, Tubesales during the 60's and 70's.

The order in which the cars were built may have varied according to how the chassis and bodies were stacked out in the yard. I seriously doubt it was a perfect "First-in / First-out" inventory managment system.

The government tax collectors were frequently led on to believe fewer cars were built to avoid paying tax on them. "Our beloved Colin" ever bend the rules?? Noooooo, never! (wink-wink, nudge-nuge, know-what-I-mean?)

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PostPost by: pinsx3 » Mon Jan 30, 2006 5:13 pm

Roger, I still have the S1 -- actually, I sold one S1 after I bought
John Schneeman's S1. Then I bought a road elan from Finn Jorgenson in
the Bay area. That is the SS. There is nothing outwardly apparent on
the fuel tank to make it appear to be a cell, but that is what the
literature said. I can double check. I don't remember about the
gauges.

Pete

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PostPost by: Benjamin Levy » Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:13 pm

My Elan, 36/7666, is an S3/SE Super Safety. It has the dangling
inner door levers and knock-offs with the ears that point in. But the
seats tilt forward and the dash has toggle switches, not rocker
switches.
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PostPost by: "Roger Sieling" » Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:26 pm

Pete,

John had sent me some photos of his 26R repro. VERy nice!!! I've known John for quite a long time, in fact, He at one time owned my 20/22. IIRC, there were a couple of owners in between, but John is the one who took it apart, when he lived in Minnesota. I used his photos to verify what was there and what had disappeared by the time I loaded the boxes of junk into my trailer in Nov 92.

I'm also familiar w/ Finn and that white SS. IIRC, it is 5 numbers from mine. I have a photo copy of the owner's manual suppliment from your car. Previous to Finn, it was owned by Robt Cavanaugh on the east coast. RC is a vintage race car wheeler/dealer. I'm not sure I've ever seen him at a track, but he always has some interesting Lotus or Brabham pieces for sale at premium prices. He may be the original owner. If not, he did own it for a very long time.

I did get a shop manual w/ my SS, my first Lotus, but no owner's manual. If it would have been in the car in 1974, it would have been ruined, since the car was a mess. The top was in shreads, parked outdoors. When I 1st drove it, there was water sloshing around in the floor. I remember driving on a test drive back to my home and hoping my wife wouldn't notice the water. Several weeks later, I was able to find a used top, which worked well for a few years until some @$$401# but a beer bottle through the back window. I am the 3rd owner of my SS.

Roger

>> ***@***.*** 1/30/2006 12:13 PM >>>
Roger, I still have the S1 -- actually, I sold one S1 after I bought

John Schneeman's S1. Then I bought a road elan from Finn Jorgenson in
the Bay area. That is the SS. There is nothing outwardly apparent on
the fuel tank to make it appear to be a cell, but that is what the
literature said. I can double check. I don't remember about the
gauges.

Pete

64 S1 Elan
68 S3 SS Elan
67 Duetto
65 Mk 1 LoCort
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