Lotus Elan

Sway bar bushing question.

PostPost by: "ngiovas" » Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:54 pm

Did the Elan come with different diameter sway bars throughout the
various models? I was installing a new set of poly bushings on the
lower portion of the sway bar upright (the hour glass shaped bushing
that supports the bar), and the hole in the bushing is slightly
larger that the diameter of the bar (around a 1/4"). I'm wondering
if some of the later cars maybe had a larger diameter sway bar?

I am assuming that these bushings should be snug, not loose. I do
have another set of bushings that have the same exact outer shape
and size, but the hole in the center is slightly smaller that the
sway bar (the sway bar is 0.625" and the bushing is 0.60"). I'm not
sure, but this may be too tight and I don't want to get it jammed on
the bar while trying. Plus it seemed like it may damage the bushing
trying to get it over the end of the bar. Is it possible this is
the correct bushing and I'm just underestimating the ability of the
poly to stretch around the ends of the bar?

Of course this happens just as I am excited about finishing my
rolling chassis (finally!!). I have all of the shocks, springs,
hubs, the steering box and the front rotors and calipers on. I am
anxious to get the sway bar worked out so I can move on to the rear
end and transmission.

Of course, the thing to note is that I wouldn't be nearly as far
without the help of everyone here! I wanted to take another
opportunity to thank everyone for the valuable input throughout the
process.

Nick
"ngiovas"
 

PostPost by: "ngiovas" » Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:16 pm

Sorry if this is a duplicate message for anyone. I sent it Sunday,
but it never came through on my yahoo group email, so I wasn't sure
if it ever got submitted.

Thanks,
Nick


Did the Elan come with different diameter sway bars throughout the
various models? I was installing a new set of poly bushings on the
lower portion of the sway bar upright (the hour glass shaped
bushing

that supports the bar), and the hole in the bushing is slightly
larger that the diameter of the bar (around a 1/4"). I'm wondering
if some of the later cars maybe had a larger diameter sway bar?

I am assuming that these bushings should be snug, not loose. I do
have another set of bushings that have the same exact outer shape
and size, but the hole in the center is slightly smaller that the
sway bar (the sway bar is 0.625" and the bushing is 0.60"). I'm
not

sure, but this may be too tight and I don't want to get it jammed
on

the bar while trying. Plus it seemed like it may damage the
bushing

trying to get it over the end of the bar. Is it possible this is
the correct bushing and I'm just underestimating the ability of the
poly to stretch around the ends of the bar?

Of course this happens just as I am excited about finishing my
rolling chassis (finally!!). I have all of the shocks, springs,
hubs, the steering box and the front rotors and calipers on. I am
anxious to get the sway bar worked out so I can move on to the rear
end and transmission.

Of course, the thing to note is that I wouldn't be nearly as far
without the help of everyone here! I wanted to take another
opportunity to thank everyone for the valuable input throughout the
process.

Nick
"ngiovas"
 

PostPost by: type36lotus » Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:46 am

Hi Nick, Well as no one else has offered an answer, I will. From
looking at my catalogs and books I have found only one number for
the front anti-roll bar. So, excepting the 26R, I would say there
was only one diameter. This may prompt others who know from
experience to prove me wrong and answer your question :-)

Mike

--- In ***@***.***, "ngiovas" <[email protected]> wrote:
Sorry if this is a duplicate message for anyone. I sent it
Sunday,

but it never came through on my yahoo group email, so I wasn't
sure

if it ever got submitted.

Thanks,
Nick


> Did the Elan come with different diameter sway bars throughout
the

> various models? I was installing a new set of poly bushings on
the

> lower portion of the sway bar upright (the hour glass shaped
bushing
> that supports the bar), and the hole in the bushing is slightly
> larger that the diameter of the bar (around a 1/4"). I'm
wondering

> if some of the later cars maybe had a larger diameter sway bar?
>
> I am assuming that these bushings should be snug, not loose. I
do

> have another set of bushings that have the same exact outer
shape

> and size, but the hole in the center is slightly smaller that
the

> sway bar (the sway bar is 0.625" and the bushing is 0.60"). I'm
not
> sure, but this may be too tight and I don't want to get it
jammed

on
> the bar while trying. Plus it seemed like it may damage the
bushing
> trying to get it over the end of the bar. Is it possible this
is

> the correct bushing and I'm just underestimating the ability of
the

> poly to stretch around the ends of the bar?
>
> Of course this happens just as I am excited about finishing my
> rolling chassis (finally!!). I have all of the shocks, springs,
> hubs, the steering box and the front rotors and calipers on. I
am

> anxious to get the sway bar worked out so I can move on to the
rear

> end and transmission.
>
> Of course, the thing to note is that I wouldn't be nearly as far
> without the help of everyone here! I wanted to take another
> opportunity to thank everyone for the valuable input throughout
the

> process.
>
> Nick
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PostPost by: "Nick Giovas" » Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:08 am

Thanks Mike. I suspect that the tighter bushings that I have are the proper
size. I remember the originals being very tight to take off. My guess is
that the poly should have no problems stretching if I use some lube.

Nick

-----Original Message-----
From: ***@***.***lto:***@***.*** Behalf
Of Michael Geiger
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 8:46 PM
To: ***@***.***
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Re: Sway bar bushing question.

Hi Nick, Well as no one else has offered an answer, I will. From
looking at my catalogs and books I have found only one number for
the front anti-roll bar. So, excepting the 26R, I would say there
was only one diameter. This may prompt others who know from
experience to prove me wrong and answer your question :-)

Mike

--- In ***@***.***, "ngiovas" <[email protected]> wrote:
Sorry if this is a duplicate message for anyone. I sent it
Sunday,

but it never came through on my yahoo group email, so I wasn't
sure

if it ever got submitted.

Thanks,
Nick


> Did the Elan come with different diameter sway bars throughout
the

> various models? I was installing a new set of poly bushings on
the

> lower portion of the sway bar upright (the hour glass shaped
bushing
> that supports the bar), and the hole in the bushing is slightly
> larger that the diameter of the bar (around a 1/4"). I'm
wondering

> if some of the later cars maybe had a larger diameter sway bar?
>
> I am assuming that these bushings should be snug, not loose. I
do

> have another set of bushings that have the same exact outer
shape

> and size, but the hole in the center is slightly smaller that
the

> sway bar (the sway bar is 0.625" and the bushing is 0.60"). I'm
not
> sure, but this may be too tight and I don't want to get it
jammed

on
> the bar while trying. Plus it seemed like it may damage the
bushing
> trying to get it over the end of the bar. Is it possible this
is

> the correct bushing and I'm just underestimating the ability of
the

> poly to stretch around the ends of the bar?
>
> Of course this happens just as I am excited about finishing my
> rolling chassis (finally!!). I have all of the shocks, springs,
> hubs, the steering box and the front rotors and calipers on. I
am

> anxious to get the sway bar worked out so I can move on to the
rear

> end and transmission.
>
> Of course, the thing to note is that I wouldn't be nearly as far
> without the help of everyone here! I wanted to take another
> opportunity to thank everyone for the valuable input throughout
the

> process.
>
> Nick








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PostPost by: "Roger Sieling" » Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:58 am

I'll second Mike's answeron this one. I don't think there was any change over the series of Elans on bar size. Both my S3-DHC's were fitted w/ small diameter rear springs and matching fronts and larger front sway bars by the original owners. The white project car 45/26R also has a rear bar fitted, but it has all sorts of other 26R goodies too. Did you ever get the rest of your rear hubs apart?

Roger

>> ***@***.*** 9/21/2005 8:46 PM >>>
Hi Nick, Well as no one else has offered an answer, I will. From

looking at my catalogs and books I have found only one number for
the front anti-roll bar. So, excepting the 26R, I would say there
was only one diameter. This may prompt others who know from
experience to prove me wrong and answer your question :-)

Mike

--- In ***@***.***, "ngiovas" <[email protected]> wrote:
Sorry if this is a duplicate message for anyone. I sent it
Sunday,

but it never came through on my yahoo group email, so I wasn't
sure

if it ever got submitted.

Thanks,
Nick


> Did the Elan come with different diameter sway bars throughout
the

> various models? I was installing a new set of poly bushings on
the

> lower portion of the sway bar upright (the hour glass shaped
bushing
> that supports the bar), and the hole in the bushing is slightly
> larger that the diameter of the bar (around a 1/4"). I'm
wondering

> if some of the later cars maybe had a larger diameter sway bar?
>
> I am assuming that these bushings should be snug, not loose. I
do

> have another set of bushings that have the same exact outer
shape

> and size, but the hole in the center is slightly smaller that
the

> sway bar (the sway bar is 0.625" and the bushing is 0.60"). I'm
not
> sure, but this may be too tight and I don't want to get it
jammed

on
> the bar while trying. Plus it seemed like it may damage the
bushing
> trying to get it over the end of the bar. Is it possible this
is

> the correct bushing and I'm just underestimating the ability of
the

> poly to stretch around the ends of the bar?
>
> Of course this happens just as I am excited about finishing my
> rolling chassis (finally!!). I have all of the shocks, springs,
> hubs, the steering box and the front rotors and calipers on. I
am

> anxious to get the sway bar worked out so I can move on to the
rear

> end and transmission.
>
> Of course, the thing to note is that I wouldn't be nearly as far
> without the help of everyone here! I wanted to take another
> opportunity to thank everyone for the valuable input throughout
the

> process.
>
> Nick








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PostPost by: "Nick Giovas" » Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:24 pm

Thanks Roger,
I did finish up the rear hubs. I finished disassembling them, cleaned and
painted them and replaced the bearings. They are now back on the chassis
with freshly painted springs and new shocks.

I am going to try out the smaller diameter bushings I have and see if they
will work out. Once the sway bar is back on, I will be ready to start the
transmission and rear end.

Nick

-----Original Message-----
From: ***@***.***lto:***@***.*** Behalf
Of Roger Sieling
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 7:59 AM
To: ***@***.***
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Re: Sway bar bushing question.

I'll second Mike's answeron this one. I don't think there was any change
over the series of Elans on bar size. Both my S3-DHC's were fitted w/ small
diameter rear springs and matching fronts and larger front sway bars by the
original owners. The white project car 45/26R also has a rear bar fitted,
but it has all sorts of other 26R goodies too. Did you ever get the rest of
your rear hubs apart?

Roger

>> ***@***.*** 9/21/2005 8:46 PM >>>
Hi Nick, Well as no one else has offered an answer, I will. From

looking at my catalogs and books I have found only one number for
the front anti-roll bar. So, excepting the 26R, I would say there
was only one diameter. This may prompt others who know from
experience to prove me wrong and answer your question :-)

Mike

--- In ***@***.***, "ngiovas" <[email protected]> wrote:
Sorry if this is a duplicate message for anyone. I sent it
Sunday,

but it never came through on my yahoo group email, so I wasn't
sure

if it ever got submitted.

Thanks,
Nick


> Did the Elan come with different diameter sway bars throughout
the

> various models? I was installing a new set of poly bushings on
the

> lower portion of the sway bar upright (the hour glass shaped
bushing
> that supports the bar), and the hole in the bushing is slightly
> larger that the diameter of the bar (around a 1/4"). I'm
wondering

> if some of the later cars maybe had a larger diameter sway bar?
>
> I am assuming that these bushings should be snug, not loose. I
do

> have another set of bushings that have the same exact outer
shape

> and size, but the hole in the center is slightly smaller that
the

> sway bar (the sway bar is 0.625" and the bushing is 0.60"). I'm
not
> sure, but this may be too tight and I don't want to get it
jammed

on
> the bar while trying. Plus it seemed like it may damage the
bushing
> trying to get it over the end of the bar. Is it possible this
is

> the correct bushing and I'm just underestimating the ability of
the

> poly to stretch around the ends of the bar?
>
> Of course this happens just as I am excited about finishing my
> rolling chassis (finally!!). I have all of the shocks, springs,
> hubs, the steering box and the front rotors and calipers on. I
am

> anxious to get the sway bar worked out so I can move on to the
rear

> end and transmission.
>
> Of course, the thing to note is that I wouldn't be nearly as far
> without the help of everyone here! I wanted to take another
> opportunity to thank everyone for the valuable input throughout
the

> process.
>
> Nick








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PostPost by: "ngiovas" » Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:22 pm

Ok, everything is all taken care of with the bushings. I pulled the
loose ones off and put on the smaller ones. They were very tight
going over the ends of the bar, but once on, with a little poly
lube, they were fine.

I was going to post some pictures of my completed rolling chassis in
the photo section, but I keep getting a "group error" when I click
on the link. Is anyone else having trouble accessing the photo
section.

Nick

--- In ***@***.***, "Nick Giovas" <[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks Roger,
I did finish up the rear hubs. I finished disassembling them,
cleaned and

painted them and replaced the bearings. They are now back on the
chassis

with freshly painted springs and new shocks.

I am going to try out the smaller diameter bushings I have and see
if they

will work out. Once the sway bar is back on, I will be ready to
start the

transmission and rear end.

Nick

-----Original Message-----
From: ***@***.***lto:***@***.***
On Behalf

Of Roger Sieling
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 7:59 AM
To: ***@***.***
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Re: Sway bar bushing question.

I'll second Mike's answeron this one. I don't think there was any
change

over the series of Elans on bar size. Both my S3-DHC's were fitted
w/ small

diameter rear springs and matching fronts and larger front sway
bars by the

original owners. The white project car 45/26R also has a rear bar
fitted,

but it has all sorts of other 26R goodies too. Did you ever get
the rest of

your rear hubs apart?

Roger

>>> [email protected] 9/21/2005 8:46 PM >>>
Hi Nick, Well as no one else has offered an answer, I will. From
looking at my catalogs and books I have found only one number for
the front anti-roll bar. So, excepting the 26R, I would say there
was only one diameter. This may prompt others who know from
experience to prove me wrong and answer your question :-)

Mike

--- In ***@***.***, "ngiovas" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sorry if this is a duplicate message for anyone. I sent it
Sunday,
> but it never came through on my yahoo group email, so I wasn't
sure
> if it ever got submitted.
>
> Thanks,
> Nick
>
>
> > Did the Elan come with different diameter sway bars throughout
the
> > various models? I was installing a new set of poly bushings
on

the
> > lower portion of the sway bar upright (the hour glass shaped
> bushing
> > that supports the bar), and the hole in the bushing is
slightly

> > larger that the diameter of the bar (around a 1/4"). I'm
wondering
> > if some of the later cars maybe had a larger diameter sway
bar?

> >
> > I am assuming that these bushings should be snug, not loose.
I

do
> > have another set of bushings that have the same exact outer
shape
> > and size, but the hole in the center is slightly smaller that
the
> > sway bar (the sway bar is 0.625" and the bushing is 0.60").
I'm

> not
> > sure, but this may be too tight and I don't want to get it
jammed
> on
> > the bar while trying. Plus it seemed like it may damage the
> bushing
> > trying to get it over the end of the bar. Is it possible this
is
> > the correct bushing and I'm just underestimating the ability
of

the
> > poly to stretch around the ends of the bar?
> >
> > Of course this happens just as I am excited about finishing my
> > rolling chassis (finally!!). I have all of the shocks,
springs,

> > hubs, the steering box and the front rotors and calipers on.
I

am
> > anxious to get the sway bar worked out so I can move on to the
rear
> > end and transmission.
> >
> > Of course, the thing to note is that I wouldn't be nearly as
far

> > without the help of everyone here! I wanted to take another
> > opportunity to thank everyone for the valuable input
throughout

the
> > process.
> >
> > Nick








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