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Wife complaining...

PostPost by: "collins_dan2000&quo » Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:38 pm

... that after I come home from driving the S4 I smell like fumes.
While I would never admit it to her, I sometimes feel like I get a bit
of a headache after driving. The previous owner says that the header
gasket is new. The vent pipe seems well sealed to the block and air
filter. On start-up after leaving the car sit for a week or so, I get
white smoke drifting out from under the engine and into the footwells,
which seems to go away after a minute or so, but maybe its the white
color that's going away, not the fumes. Any ideas of what I can check?
Thanks. Dan '70 S4 SE
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PostPost by: "Roger Sieling" » Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:57 pm

Is the car consuming coolant? Does the white cloud smaell "sweet"?

Roger

>> ***@***.*** 9/12/2005 11:38 AM >>>
... that after I come home from driving the S4 I smell like fumes.

While I would never admit it to her, I sometimes feel like I get a bit
of a headache after driving. The previous owner says that the header
gasket is new. The vent pipe seems well sealed to the block and air
filter. On start-up after leaving the car sit for a week or so, I get
white smoke drifting out from under the engine and into the footwells,
which seems to go away after a minute or so, but maybe its the white
color that's going away, not the fumes. Any ideas of what I can check?
Thanks. Dan '70 S4 SE









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PostPost by: TYPE45 at aol.com » Mon Sep 12, 2005 4:05 pm

Dan,

I would check to see if oil is coming from the rear crank seal, running out
of the bell housing and collecting on the exhaust. Once the exhaust heats up,
it burns the oil, creating the smoke until the oil is burnt off.

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PostPost by: "collins_dan2000&quo » Mon Sep 12, 2005 4:10 pm

Coolant is not a problem. Car consumes a fair amount of oil, not
coolant, and no oil in coolant. Dan

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Is the car consuming coolant? Does the white cloud smaell "sweet"?

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PostPost by: "Roger Sieling" » Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:29 pm

Well, there you go.

>> ***@***.*** 9/12/2005 12:10 PM >>>
Coolant is not a problem. Car consumes a fair amount of oil, not

coolant, and no oil in coolant. Dan

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PostPost by: schwartzd13 » Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:38 am

Dan,
I would put park the car in your garage, light off, put a trouble light
inside the engine compartment and close the bonnet lid as much as
possible..then get on your knees and look in each footwell for light
leaks around all the grommets/holes from the engine bay/ firewall into
the interior.
Do the fumes smell like oil or gas (petrol)? If it's petrol, you need to
also check the fuel tank/sending unit connections/vents and any passages
from the trunk (boot) into the interior.

Or say it's the latest cologne from AXE. (Excellent TV commercials here
in the US)
Good luck.
-David
69 S4

collins_dan2000 wrote:

... that after I come home from driving the S4 I smell like fumes.
While I would never admit it to her, I sometimes feel like I get a bit
of a headache after driving. The previous owner says that the header
gasket is new. The vent pipe seems well sealed to the block and air
filter. On start-up after leaving the car sit for a week or so, I get
white smoke drifting out from under the engine and into the footwells,
which seems to go away after a minute or so, but maybe its the white
color that's going away, not the fumes. Any ideas of what I can check?
Thanks. Dan '70 S4 SE
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PostPost by: tvacc » Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:50 am

The one place you should look first is inside the "drain or vent tube"
between the head and the block. See if that is plugged (you said it was not
leaking).



White smoke is usually a head gasket problem (antifreeze).but that is
usually in the exhaust..



Due to the lower pressure in the car..you will suck in anything hanging
around the engine compartment.



Tony Vaccaro



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Dan,
I would put park the car in your garage, light off, put a trouble light
inside the engine compartment and close the bonnet lid as much as
possible..then get on your knees and look in each footwell for light
leaks around all the grommets/holes from the engine bay/ firewall into
the interior.
Do the fumes smell like oil or gas (petrol)? If it's petrol, you need to
also check the fuel tank/sending unit connections/vents and any passages
from the trunk (boot) into the interior.

Or say it's the latest cologne from AXE. (Excellent TV commercials here
in the US)
Good luck.
-David
69 S4

collins_dan2000 wrote:

... that after I come home from driving the S4 I smell like fumes.
While I would never admit it to her, I sometimes feel like I get a bit
of a headache after driving. The previous owner says that the header
gasket is new. The vent pipe seems well sealed to the block and air
filter. On start-up after leaving the car sit for a week or so, I get
white smoke drifting out from under the engine and into the footwells,
which seems to go away after a minute or so, but maybe its the white
color that's going away, not the fumes. Any ideas of what I can check?
Thanks. Dan '70 S4 SE
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PostPost by: gjz30075 » Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:47 am

--- In ***@***.***, "collins_dan2000" <[email protected]>
wrote:
... that after I come home from driving the S4 I smell like fumes.
While I would never admit it to her, I sometimes feel like I get a
bit

of a headache after driving.

Dan,
I'd check the condition of the trunk/boot seal. It can let in fumes
due to the shape of the body back there. As a test, you can seal it
all up with some masking tape and go driving.

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