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Are "Top-Hat" shims the correct type?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:04 pm
by davidwinegar
Thanks Brian, this helps greatly.

Just wonderig if top-hat shims are what are supposed to be in there?
A couple of mine have these types of shims but no one around here has
seen this type and we thought that they were somehow not correct.
What should I be using?

Regards.

David

--- In ***@***.***, "Brian Goodison" <bgoodison777@h...>
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Are "Top-Hat" shims the correct type?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 8:03 pm
by types26/36
--- In ***@***.***, "david_c_w" <david_c_w@y...> wrote:



David,
I have never used them myself although I have seen them, they are not
used under normal circumstances in a T.C.
As far as I know they are used in racing applications and when the
base circle of the cams have been modified.
Maybe one of the racers can add something.
Brian
64Elan/72Sprint/J.P.S.Europa/Birkin T.C.Seven

Are "Top-Hat" shims the correct type?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:30 pm
by Foxie
Brian,

I think you are on the right track. I have had heads with both "disc" and "top hat" shims. Which type are used seems to depend on the cam/valve/valve spring/retainer/spring seat combination. Normally the disc type is retained laterally by sitting in the cup in the valve spring retainer. If a combination is used where the valve stem is level with, or protrudes above the top of the retainer cup, a "top hat" shim is used which sits on the valve stem. The shim is now retained laterally by the cup in its underside . David Bean lists 9 different valve stem lengths, 3 different retainer types, and 4 different thickness spring seats, and 3 different cam follower thicknesses, That's 324 combinations !

Sean Murray (Not really a racer !)
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--- In ***@***.***, "david_c_w" <david_c_w@y...> wrote:



David,
I have never used them myself although I have seen them, they are not
used under normal circumstances in a T.C.
As far as I know they are used in racing applications and when the
base circle of the cams have been modified.
Maybe one of the racers can add something.
Brian
64Elan/72Sprint/J.P.S.Europa/Birkin T.C.Seven