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Tilton Starter question

PostPost by: nygroup » Sat Jun 25, 2005 10:35 pm

I installed a Tilton 'superstarter' (from dave bean engr) 2 years ago.
Works pretty well, but occasionally it won't turn over. All
connections are tight and the amp meter shows high current draw when
ignition is turned. Battery is new and fully charged. I've noticed
that it seems to occur when the engine is hot. Is it the built in
solenoid that can't take the heat? Any ideas?

thanks,
steve
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PostPost by: "Will Grainger" » Sat Jun 25, 2005 11:11 pm

Don't really have an answer for you, except that I've used the Tilton Superstarter for years
with no problem. I bought it from Bean in the early 90's. It was a chore to install and
required grinding of the engine block for clearance in order to sit flush with the mounting
surface. Maybe it's not wired quite right? I've just got the main half-inch thick cable going
to the stud terminal, and then a short jumper wire from this terminal over to the spade
terminal. At least that's how I remember it. Can't see it too well with the carbs on.

-Good luck

Will Grainger
45/9693


--- In ***@***.***, "nygroup" <[email protected]> wrote:
I installed a Tilton 'superstarter' (from dave bean engr) 2 years ago.
Works pretty well, but occasionally it won't turn over. All
connections are tight and the amp meter shows high current draw when
ignition is turned. Battery is new and fully charged. I've noticed
that it seems to occur when the engine is hot. Is it the built in
solenoid that can't take the heat? Any ideas?

thanks,
steve
"Will Grainger"
 

PostPost by: "Brian Goodison" » Sat Jun 25, 2005 11:19 pm

--- In ***@***.***, "nygroup" <[email protected]> wrote:
I installed a Tilton 'superstarter' (from dave bean engr) 2 years
ago.

Works pretty well, but occasionally it won't turn over. All
connections are tight and the amp meter shows high current draw
when

ignition is turned. Battery is new and fully charged. I've noticed
that it seems to occur when the engine is hot. Is it the built in
solenoid that can't take the heat? Any ideas?


Dont know anything about Tilton starters but it sounds like you are
getting "voltage drop"
Strangely it normally occurs when cars are hot and not cold, its a
build up of high resistance through the wiring and
connections,usually
with old wiring and connections, you could check what voltage you
have
at the solinoid when it happens.Fitting a relay to the starter
circuit
usually fixes the problem.
Brian.
64Elan/72Sprint/J.P.S.Europa/Birkin T.C.Seven
"Brian Goodison"
 

PostPost by: nygroup » Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:06 pm

Brian,
Thanks for the tip. Interesting..
So, you are suggesting that I install a relay in the circuit that
feeds the solenoid? Easy enough to do, so I'll give it a try.

thanks,
steve

--- In ***@***.***, "Brian Goodison"
<[email protected]> wrote:
--- In ***@***.***, "nygroup" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I installed a Tilton 'superstarter' (from dave bean engr) 2
years

ago.
> Works pretty well, but occasionally it won't turn over. All
> connections are tight and the amp meter shows high current draw
when
> ignition is turned. Battery is new and fully charged. I've
noticed

> that it seems to occur when the engine is hot. Is it the built
in

> solenoid that can't take the heat? Any ideas?


Dont know anything about Tilton starters but it sounds like you
are

getting "voltage drop"
Strangely it normally occurs when cars are hot and not cold, its
a

build up of high resistance through the wiring and
connections,usually
with old wiring and connections, you could check what voltage you
have
at the solinoid when it happens.Fitting a relay to the starter
circuit
usually fixes the problem.
Brian.
64Elan/72Sprint/J.P.S.Europa/Birkin T.C.Seven
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PostPost by: nygroup » Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:08 pm

Will,
Thanks for the info. I didn't have a problem installing it, and it's
wired right (in same manner as you indicate) and starts fine 95 out
of 100 times. The relay suggestion from Brian sounds like it might
help and is easy to do, so I'll try that and see what happens.

thanks,
steve



--- In ***@***.***, "Will Grainger" <[email protected]>
wrote:
Don't really have an answer for you, except that I've used the
Tilton Superstarter for years

with no problem. I bought it from Bean in the early 90's. It was a
chore to install and

required grinding of the engine block for clearance in order to
sit flush with the mounting

surface. Maybe it's not wired quite right? I've just got the main
half-inch thick cable going

to the stud terminal, and then a short jumper wire from this
terminal over to the spade

terminal. At least that's how I remember it. Can't see it too well
with the carbs on.


-Good luck

Will Grainger
45/9693


--- In ***@***.***, "nygroup" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I installed a Tilton 'superstarter' (from dave bean engr) 2
years ago.

> Works pretty well, but occasionally it won't turn over. All
> connections are tight and the amp meter shows high current draw
when

> ignition is turned. Battery is new and fully charged. I've
noticed

> that it seems to occur when the engine is hot. Is it the built
in

> solenoid that can't take the heat? Any ideas?
>
> thanks,
> steve
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PostPost by: "Brian Goodison" » Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:56 pm

--- In ***@***.***, "nygroup" <[email protected]> wrote:
So, you are suggesting that I install a relay in the circuit that
feeds the solenoid?

Yes, a good source of 12v to the relay, the wire from the ign switch
which went to the solenoid now goes to the relay, the relay now feeds
the solenoid.
Ofcourse the relay will proberably need another power and earth
(ground)connection.
Brian
64Elan/72Sprint/J.P.S.Europa/Birkin T.C.Seven
"Brian Goodison"
 

PostPost by: nygroup » Sun Jun 26, 2005 3:10 pm

Excellent! Thanks for the suggestion. I'll give it a try today.

steve



--- In ***@***.***, "Brian Goodison" <[email protected]>
wrote:
--- In ***@***.***, "nygroup" <[email protected]> wrote:
> So, you are suggesting that I install a relay in the circuit that
> feeds the solenoid?

Yes, a good source of 12v to the relay, the wire from the ign switch
which went to the solenoid now goes to the relay, the relay now
feeds

the solenoid.
Ofcourse the relay will proberably need another power and earth
(ground)connection.
Brian
64Elan/72Sprint/J.P.S.Europa/Birkin T.C.Seven
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