timing problem
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Post by: Arno Church » Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:37 pm
You are most welcome to join our "classes", every Sunday night at 6 pm- (GMT -2hours)
We've got 2 Elans, 1 Lotus Cortina, 1 Lotus 7( not a replica ) , 1 Lotus 23
Oh and a Fiat X/19 (while it was mentioned)
Arno
<I stand corrected, Arno. I need to pay more attention to my lessons, eh?
Art
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We've got 2 Elans, 1 Lotus Cortina, 1 Lotus 7( not a replica ) , 1 Lotus 23
Oh and a Fiat X/19 (while it was mentioned)
Arno
<I stand corrected, Arno. I need to pay more attention to my lessons, eh?
Art
26/4934
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Post by: Arno Church » Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:40 pm
plus the Hewland MK 8/9 used a Zephyr crown wheel and pinion
Arno
Don't know what they did/do w/ FV, but the Hewland Mk series of boxes has the VW case upside down from normal VW application.
Roger
Arno
Don't know what they did/do w/ FV, but the Hewland Mk series of boxes has the VW case upside down from normal VW application.
Roger
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Post by: Bill » Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:55 pm
Arno
I will trade you a month in SA for a month in western Canada - Vancouver
Island - (home n car - not my Lotus) anytime you want.
Bill
(26 0538)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Arno Church" <***@***.***>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:58 AM
Subject: Re: [LotusElan.net] timing problem
--- In ***@***.***, "Arno Church" <stuckect@i...> wrote:
the distributor cam turns anti-clockwise
I am not as fortunate as some who can spend six months in the northern
hemisphere and 6 in the south, to notice the difference in water running out
of the tub
Secondly and more important , It's Ishqa bahar and soda, locally (in Cape
Town) known as lessons ,not brandy and coke, I'll let you know!!! Jeff
Wolfson can vouch for that.
Cheers
Arno
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I will trade you a month in SA for a month in western Canada - Vancouver
Island - (home n car - not my Lotus) anytime you want.
Bill
(26 0538)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Arno Church" <***@***.***>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:58 AM
Subject: Re: [LotusElan.net] timing problem
--- In ***@***.***, "Arno Church" <stuckect@i...> wrote:
the distributor cam turns anti-clockwise
I am not as fortunate as some who can spend six months in the northern
hemisphere and 6 in the south, to notice the difference in water running out
of the tub
Secondly and more important , It's Ishqa bahar and soda, locally (in Cape
Town) known as lessons ,not brandy and coke, I'll let you know!!! Jeff
Wolfson can vouch for that.
Cheers
Arno
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Vancouver Island, Canada
"Keep your stick on the ice, boys."
Vancouver Island, Canada
"Keep your stick on the ice, boys."
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Post by: Arno Church » Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:27 am
Bill
This could be a serious proposition- would make a great opportunity
Got a cousin working in Vancouver (commuting from Edmontonon a fortnightly basis
Maybe we should discuss this off-line - contact me directly ***@***.***
Arno
Arno
I will trade you a month in SA for a month in western Canada - Vancouver
Island - (home n car - not my Lotus) anytime you want.
Bill
(26 0538)
This could be a serious proposition- would make a great opportunity
Got a cousin working in Vancouver (commuting from Edmontonon a fortnightly basis
Maybe we should discuss this off-line - contact me directly ***@***.***
Arno
Arno
I will trade you a month in SA for a month in western Canada - Vancouver
Island - (home n car - not my Lotus) anytime you want.
Bill
(26 0538)
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Post by: ericsalomon » Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:33 am
Take it Arno! I believe there's lots of ice in Vancouver to melt with the scotch!
PS the hewland diff has the zephyr diff carrier. The early hewland boxes used the original VW crown wheel & pinion, but with lots of machining.
Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: ***@***.***lto:***@***.***lfOf Bill Rathlef
Sent: 2005-04-20 06:55
To: ***@***.***
Subject: Re: [LotusElan.net] timing problem
Arno
I will trade you a month in SA for a month in western Canada - Vancouver
Island - (home n car - not my Lotus) anytime you want.
Bill
(26 0538)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Arno Church" <***@***.***>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:58 AM
Subject: Re: [LotusElan.net] timing problem
--- In ***@***.***, "Arno Church" <stuckect@i...> wrote:
the distributor cam turns anti-clockwise
I am not as fortunate as some who can spend six months in the northern
hemisphere and 6 in the south, to notice the difference in water running out
of the tub
Secondly and more important , It's Ishqa bahar and soda, locally (in Cape
Town) known as lessons ,not brandy and coke, I'll let you know!!! Jeff
Wolfson can vouch for that.
Cheers
Arno
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PS the hewland diff has the zephyr diff carrier. The early hewland boxes used the original VW crown wheel & pinion, but with lots of machining.
Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: ***@***.***lto:***@***.***lfOf Bill Rathlef
Sent: 2005-04-20 06:55
To: ***@***.***
Subject: Re: [LotusElan.net] timing problem
Arno
I will trade you a month in SA for a month in western Canada - Vancouver
Island - (home n car - not my Lotus) anytime you want.
Bill
(26 0538)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Arno Church" <***@***.***>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:58 AM
Subject: Re: [LotusElan.net] timing problem
--- In ***@***.***, "Arno Church" <stuckect@i...> wrote:
the distributor cam turns anti-clockwise
I am not as fortunate as some who can spend six months in the northern
hemisphere and 6 in the south, to notice the difference in water running out
of the tub
Secondly and more important , It's Ishqa bahar and soda, locally (in Cape
Town) known as lessons ,not brandy and coke, I'll let you know!!! Jeff
Wolfson can vouch for that.
Cheers
Arno
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Post by: Arno Church » Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:20 am
You are obviously coming along , what about next Dec, their will be lots more ice to melt then
Arno
Take it Arno! I believe there's lots of ice in Vancouver to melt with the scotch!
PS the hewland diff has the zephyr diff carrier. The early hewland boxes used the original VW crown wheel & pinion, but with lots of machining.
Eric
Arno
Take it Arno! I believe there's lots of ice in Vancouver to melt with the scotch!
PS the hewland diff has the zephyr diff carrier. The early hewland boxes used the original VW crown wheel & pinion, but with lots of machining.
Eric
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Post by: ericsalomon » Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:38 am
In case anyone is wondering what this ice thing is about, Arno and I were reputed to have melted the entire ice suply at Phakisa International Racewayone weekend last year in consuming our scotch.
This was not true!
We left some for our good friend (and lotus elan owner) John Amm, to use inhis scotch.
Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: ***@***.***lto:***@***.***lfOf Arno Church
Sent: 2005-04-21 01:26
To: ***@***.***
Subject: Re: [LotusElan.net] timing problem
You are obviously coming along , what about next Dec, their will be lots more ice to melt then
Arno
Take it Arno! I believe there's lots of ice in Vancouver to melt with thescotch!
PS the hewland diff has the zephyr diff carrier. The early hewland boxes used the original VW crown wheel & pinion, but with lots of machining.
Eric
_____
This was not true!
We left some for our good friend (and lotus elan owner) John Amm, to use inhis scotch.
Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: ***@***.***lto:***@***.***lfOf Arno Church
Sent: 2005-04-21 01:26
To: ***@***.***
Subject: Re: [LotusElan.net] timing problem
You are obviously coming along , what about next Dec, their will be lots more ice to melt then
Arno
Take it Arno! I believe there's lots of ice in Vancouver to melt with thescotch!
PS the hewland diff has the zephyr diff carrier. The early hewland boxes used the original VW crown wheel & pinion, but with lots of machining.
Eric
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Post by: frearther » Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:11 pm
<You are most welcome to join our "classes", every Sunday night at 6 pm-
(GMT -2hours)
We've got 2 Elans, 1 Lotus Cortina, 1 Lotus 7( not a replica ) , 1 Lotus 23
Oh and a Fiat X/19 (while it was mentioned)
Arno>
It sounds like a fine idea - but the commute is just too long. But thanks,
anyway. Perhaps if I'm in the neighborhood...
Art
26/4934
Arther H. Frederick
Initial Reaction - embroidered and decorated apparel
3869 Route 66, Chatham Centre
Valatie, NY 12184
518-392-4287
(GMT -2hours)
We've got 2 Elans, 1 Lotus Cortina, 1 Lotus 7( not a replica ) , 1 Lotus 23
Oh and a Fiat X/19 (while it was mentioned)
Arno>
It sounds like a fine idea - but the commute is just too long. But thanks,
anyway. Perhaps if I'm in the neighborhood...
Art
26/4934
Arther H. Frederick
Initial Reaction - embroidered and decorated apparel
3869 Route 66, Chatham Centre
Valatie, NY 12184
518-392-4287
Art Frederick
S2 Roadster, built in 1965, registered in 1966, No. 26/4934
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Post by: poiuyt » Sat Apr 23, 2005 11:15 am
Let me clarify - back in the early 1970s I built a Corvair powered
dune buggy. In order to use the VW transmission you had to set up
the engine to run in the opposite direction.
Steve B.
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dune buggy. In order to use the VW transmission you had to set up
the engine to run in the opposite direction.
Steve B.
--- In ***@***.***, "Steve B" <mygti@o...> wrote:
Steve B.<br>1969 Elan S4
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Post by: BillGavin » Sat Apr 23, 2005 11:47 am
That would depend on whether you were building a mid-engine
buggy like a Deserter, and whether you started with a transaxle,
from a sedan or a van/Kombi, and whether you fitted the trans
up side down or right side up. The sedan transaxle was set up
for rear engine placement: the ring gear needed to be flopped
for mid engine placement. The van/Kombi drive train had a jack
shaft and an extra set of gears, which made the axle rotate in
the opposite direction from the engine: the ring gear was
flopped to correct the rotation. Fitting the transaxle up side
down would also require flopping the ring gear.
When I was working as a mechanic many years ago, the guys
at the VW shop down the road were always laughing about
some one or another who had unknowingly done a sedan/Kombi
transaxle swap and ended up with one low gear in forward, and
four gears in reverse.
The VW transaxle is unusual in that it was designed to allow
flopping the ring gear: it's the only production diff I know of in
which this is possible. I don't know how they allowed for torque
application in both directions, but this didn't seem to be a problem
in normal use. The gears in the trans always ran in the same
direction, so there was no problem there: they're pretty heavily
over designed, so they'd probably last pretty well anyway.
At 07:15 AM 4/23/2005, you wrote:
buggy like a Deserter, and whether you started with a transaxle,
from a sedan or a van/Kombi, and whether you fitted the trans
up side down or right side up. The sedan transaxle was set up
for rear engine placement: the ring gear needed to be flopped
for mid engine placement. The van/Kombi drive train had a jack
shaft and an extra set of gears, which made the axle rotate in
the opposite direction from the engine: the ring gear was
flopped to correct the rotation. Fitting the transaxle up side
down would also require flopping the ring gear.
When I was working as a mechanic many years ago, the guys
at the VW shop down the road were always laughing about
some one or another who had unknowingly done a sedan/Kombi
transaxle swap and ended up with one low gear in forward, and
four gears in reverse.
The VW transaxle is unusual in that it was designed to allow
flopping the ring gear: it's the only production diff I know of in
which this is possible. I don't know how they allowed for torque
application in both directions, but this didn't seem to be a problem
in normal use. The gears in the trans always ran in the same
direction, so there was no problem there: they're pretty heavily
over designed, so they'd probably last pretty well anyway.
At 07:15 AM 4/23/2005, you wrote:
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Post by: Fred Talmadge » Sat Apr 23, 2005 2:57 pm
We only had 40hp and if there was any torque I was not aware of it.
Fred, them old VWs got me thru some pretty lean financial years.
At 07:42 AM 4/23/2005 -0400, Bill Gavin wrote:
Fred, them old VWs got me thru some pretty lean financial years.
At 07:42 AM 4/23/2005 -0400, Bill Gavin wrote:
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Post by: Frank Howard » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:03 pm
Steve,
The guy who taught me everything I know about cars (Rob knows him because he
lives in Ann Arbor) bought a rear engined Devin in 1970. It came with a 36
h.p. VW engine and would scratch (break the tires loose going) into 2nd gear.
Before he installed a 150 h.p. turbocharged Corvair engine, he had to flip the
crown wheel in the dif.
Frank Howard
'71 S4 SE
Minnesota
The guy who taught me everything I know about cars (Rob knows him because he
lives in Ann Arbor) bought a rear engined Devin in 1970. It came with a 36
h.p. VW engine and would scratch (break the tires loose going) into 2nd gear.
Before he installed a 150 h.p. turbocharged Corvair engine, he had to flip the
crown wheel in the dif.
Frank Howard
'71 S4 SE
Minnesota
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Post by: Frank Howard » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:06 pm
Sorry, I meant ring gear.
Frank
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Post by: "e s" » Sat Apr 23, 2005 5:46 pm
Hondas run backwards
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