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Paint colours AGAIN

PostPost by: "Gareth Flanagan&quo » Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:12 am

I have posted this to the group at lotuselan.net and on the lotuselan
yahoo group.....
Does nobody look at the archive???....is there any point in our leader
putting in all the time and effort of our beloved lotuselan.net web site
if no-one can be @rsed looking in the archive before asking the same
sodding questions over and over again!!!!!!
Rant over
Please see paint list below....I shall post in the files section again
for those who lose the tabulated info on here

Colour( and alternative) Code Source Lotus Part No. Supplier
Part No. Introduced Discontinued
British Racing Green L.01 A036 B 6315V 6170 Y 2790 (PJ)
Before 1967 Motor Show October-70
Spruce Green -GN13 BMC
Conifer Green Triumph

French Blue L.02 A036 B 6316V 6170 Z 1280 (PJ)
Before 1967 Motor Show October-70

Wedgewood Blue L.03 Triumph A036 B 6317V 6170 Z 1290 (PJ)
Before 1967 Motor Show October-68

Cirrus White L.04 Ford 'AP' A036 B 6318V 6170 Y 2790 (PJ)
Before 1967 Motor Show October-73

Carnival Red L.05 Rootes '39' A036 B 6319V 6170 X 0540 (PJ)
Before 1967 Motor Show July-73

Burnt Sand L.06 Porsche 'Sand' A036 B 6320V 6170 X 5350 (PJ)
Before 1967 Motor Show October-70

Lotus Yellow L.07 A036 B 6321V 6170 X 3940 (PJ)
Before 1967 Motor Show

Matt Black L.08 A036 B 6312V 0235 X 9050RZ (PJ)
January-67

Royal Blue L.09 Porsche A036 B 6322V 6170 Z 1920 (PJ)
October-68 October-70

Bahama Yellow L.10 Porsche A036 B 6323V 6170 Y 3140 (PJ)
October-68 October-70

Regency Red L.11 Jaguar A036 B 6356V 6170 Y 5960 (PJ)
October-70
Maroon
French Burgundy

Lagoon Blue L.12 Rootes A036 B 6357V 6170 A 1130 (PJ)
October-70
Scandinavian Blue

Pistachio L.13 Jensen A036 B 6349V 6170 W 2230RI (PJ)
October-70 July-73
Lime Green

Colorado Orange L.14 BMW A036 B 6350V 6170 Z 5980RI (PJ)
October-70 October-72
Light Orange

Black Gloss L.15 A036 B 6397V P030 LINE 122 (ICI)
July-73
Polar Black

Tawny Brown L.16 Ford A036 B 6399V 6170 A 4330 (PJ)
October-72 January-74
Ford Tawny PO.31.3626 (ICI)

Mid Green L.17 Renault A036 B 6326V 6170 A 4330 (PJ)
July-73 October-73
Metallic Green

Glacier Blue L.18 A050 A050 B 6223V P.079-4403 (ICI)
July-73 October-73
Ice Blue

Sable L.19 A050 B 6225V P.030 7604(ICI) October-72
Siberian Sable

Indigo Blue L.20 A050 B 6226V October-72
July-73

Purple L.21 A050 B 6228V 0314494(ICI) October-73
Roman Purple

Bitter Green L.22 Was L.28 A050 B 6229V P.030 9501 (ICI)
October-73
Canadian Green 6170 X 2079 (PJ)
Colour( and alternative) Code Source Lotus Part No. Supplier
Part No. Introduced Discontinued

Sepia Brown L.23 A050 B 6230V P.030 TW 25028 (ICI)
October-73 March-74
Burmese Brown 6170 Y 4817 (PJ)

Firecracker L.24 A050 B 6231V P.030 8662 (ICI)
October-73 January-74
6170 X 5105 (PJ)

Monaco White L.25 A050 B 6232V P.030 7517 (ICI)
October-73
Andes White 6170 Y 0900 (PJ)

Olympic Blue L.26 A050 B 6233V P.030 9257 (ICI)
October-73

Gold Laquer (Roof, Bumper) A036 B 6345V 6170 A
3130 (PJ)

Silver Laquer (Bumper) A036 B 6313V 6170 A 8020 (PJ)


Silver( +2s Roof) A036 B 6355V

Metallic Jewels A050 B 6222V



Cheers
G
"Gareth Flanagan&quo
 

PostPost by: tvacc » Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:21 pm

Yes...Gareth..I checked the archive.but this is little help to me in the US
of A..





These numbers do not correlate to what I can get here.NOW..in modern paint.



I would like to know if anyone has a close match.like Ford Diamond White is
to the Cirrus White.



Thanks in advance.



Tony V



_____

From: Gareth Flanagan [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 4:13 AM
To: ***@***.***
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Paint colours AGAIN



I have posted this to the group at lotuselan.net and on the lotuselan
yahoo group.....
Does nobody look at the archive???....is there any point in our leader
putting in all the time and effort of our beloved lotuselan.net web site
if no-one can be @rsed looking in the archive before asking the same
sodding questions over and over again!!!!!!
Rant over
Please see paint list below....I shall post in the files section again
for those who lose the tabulated info on here

Colour( and alternative) Code Source Lotus Part No.
Supplier
Part No. Introduced Discontinued
British Racing Green L.01 A036 B 6315V 6170 Y 2790 (PJ)
Before 1967 Motor Show October-70
Spruce Green -GN13 BMC
Conifer Green Triumph

French Blue L.02 A036 B 6316V 6170 Z 1280 (PJ)
Before 1967 Motor Show October-70

Wedgewood Blue L.03 Triumph A036 B 6317V 6170 Z 1290
(PJ)
Before 1967 Motor Show October-68

Cirrus White L.04 Ford 'AP' A036 B 6318V 6170 Y 2790
(PJ)
Before 1967 Motor Show October-73

Carnival Red L.05 Rootes '39' A036 B 6319V 6170 X 0540
(PJ)
Before 1967 Motor Show July-73

Burnt Sand L.06 Porsche 'Sand' A036 B 6320V 6170 X 5350
(PJ)
Before 1967 Motor Show October-70

Lotus Yellow L.07 A036 B 6321V 6170 X 3940 (PJ)
Before 1967 Motor Show

Matt Black L.08 A036 B 6312V 0235 X 9050RZ (PJ)
January-67

Royal Blue L.09 Porsche A036 B 6322V 6170 Z 1920 (PJ)
October-68 October-70

Bahama Yellow L.10 Porsche A036 B 6323V 6170 Y 3140 (PJ)
October-68 October-70

Regency Red L.11 Jaguar A036 B 6356V 6170 Y 5960 (PJ)
October-70
Maroon
French Burgundy

Lagoon Blue L.12 Rootes A036 B 6357V 6170 A 1130 (PJ)
October-70
Scandinavian Blue

Pistachio L.13 Jensen A036 B 6349V 6170 W 2230RI (PJ)
October-70 July-73
Lime Green

Colorado Orange L.14 BMW A036 B 6350V 6170 Z 5980RI (PJ)
October-70 October-72
Light Orange

Black Gloss L.15 A036 B 6397V P030 LINE 122 (ICI)
July-73
Polar Black

Tawny Brown L.16 Ford A036 B 6399V 6170 A 4330 (PJ)
October-72 January-74
Ford Tawny PO.31.3626 (ICI)

Mid Green L.17 Renault A036 B 6326V 6170 A 4330 (PJ)
July-73 October-73
Metallic Green

Glacier Blue L.18 A050 A050 B 6223V P.079-4403 (ICI)
July-73 October-73
Ice Blue

Sable L.19 A050 B 6225V P.030 7604(ICI) October-72

Siberian Sable

Indigo Blue L.20 A050 B 6226V October-72
July-73

Purple L.21 A050 B 6228V 0314494(ICI) October-73

Roman Purple

Bitter Green L.22 Was L.28 A050 B 6229V P.030 9501 (ICI)
October-73
Canadian Green 6170 X 2079 (PJ)
Colour( and alternative) Code Source Lotus Part No.
Supplier
Part No. Introduced Discontinued

Sepia Brown L.23 A050 B 6230V P.030 TW 25028 (ICI)
October-73 March-74
Burmese Brown 6170 Y 4817 (PJ)

Firecracker L.24 A050 B 6231V P.030 8662 (ICI)
October-73 January-74
6170 X 5105 (PJ)

Monaco White L.25 A050 B 6232V P.030 7517 (ICI)
October-73
Andes White 6170 Y 0900 (PJ)

Olympic Blue L.26 A050 B 6233V P.030 9257 (ICI)
October-73

Gold Laquer (Roof, Bumper) A036 B 6345V 6170 A
3130 (PJ)

Silver Laquer (Bumper) A036 B 6313V 6170 A 8020 (PJ)


Silver( +2s Roof) A036 B 6355V

Metallic Jewels A050 B 6222V



Cheers
G






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PostPost by: "Gareth Flanagan&quo » Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:33 pm

Do the paint codes from muti-national companies not work in the
states????......
We give the paint shop the number and they find the cross reference for
it....I doubt anyone is using the same paint that lotus were using in
the 60's and 70's due to the fact that by todays standard they are
dangerous to both us and the enviroment........
If you want a certain paint colour then pick a car with that colour
paint on it and then go and ask the owner what colour it is...then you
can go to the main dealer and ask for a big tub of the stuff......If you
want cirrus white give the number to your shop and ask them to cross
match......if you want Ford Glacier White then ring ford up.....where's
the problem....



-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Vaccaro [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: 21 March 2005 13:20
To: ***@***.***
Subject: RE: [LotusElan.net] Paint colours AGAIN



Yes...Gareth..I checked the archive.but this is little help to me in the
US of A..





These numbers do not correlate to what I can get here.NOW..in modern
paint.



I would like to know if anyone has a close match.like Ford Diamond White
is to the Cirrus White.



Thanks in advance.



Tony V



_____

From: Gareth Flanagan [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 4:13 AM
To: ***@***.***
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Paint colours AGAIN



I have posted this to the group at lotuselan.net and on the lotuselan
yahoo group..... Does nobody look at the archive???....is there any
point in our leader putting in all the time and effort of our beloved
lotuselan.net web site if no-one can be @rsed looking in the archive
before asking the same sodding questions over and over again!!!!!! Rant
over Please see paint list below....I shall post in the files section
again for those who lose the tabulated info on here

Colour( and alternative) Code Source Lotus Part No.
Supplier
Part No. Introduced Discontinued
British Racing Green L.01 A036 B 6315V 6170 Y 2790
(PJ)
Before 1967 Motor Show October-70
Spruce Green -GN13 BMC
Conifer Green Triumph

French Blue L.02 A036 B 6316V 6170 Z 1280 (PJ)
Before 1967 Motor Show October-70

Wedgewood Blue L.03 Triumph A036 B 6317V 6170 Z 1290
(PJ)
Before 1967 Motor Show October-68

Cirrus White L.04 Ford 'AP' A036 B 6318V 6170 Y 2790
(PJ)
Before 1967 Motor Show October-73

Carnival Red L.05 Rootes '39' A036 B 6319V 6170 X
0540
(PJ)
Before 1967 Motor Show July-73

Burnt Sand L.06 Porsche 'Sand' A036 B 6320V 6170 X
5350
(PJ)
Before 1967 Motor Show October-70

Lotus Yellow L.07 A036 B 6321V 6170 X 3940 (PJ)
Before 1967 Motor Show

Matt Black L.08 A036 B 6312V 0235 X 9050RZ (PJ)
January-67

Royal Blue L.09 Porsche A036 B 6322V 6170 Z 1920
(PJ)
October-68 October-70

Bahama Yellow L.10 Porsche A036 B 6323V 6170 Y 3140
(PJ)
October-68 October-70

Regency Red L.11 Jaguar A036 B 6356V 6170 Y 5960
(PJ)
October-70
Maroon
French Burgundy

Lagoon Blue L.12 Rootes A036 B 6357V 6170 A 1130
(PJ)
October-70
Scandinavian Blue

Pistachio L.13 Jensen A036 B 6349V 6170 W 2230RI
(PJ)
October-70 July-73
Lime Green

Colorado Orange L.14 BMW A036 B 6350V 6170 Z 5980RI
(PJ)
October-70 October-72
Light Orange

Black Gloss L.15 A036 B 6397V P030 LINE 122 (ICI)
July-73
Polar Black

Tawny Brown L.16 Ford A036 B 6399V 6170 A 4330 (PJ)
October-72 January-74
Ford Tawny PO.31.3626 (ICI)

Mid Green L.17 Renault A036 B 6326V 6170 A 4330 (PJ)
July-73 October-73
Metallic Green

Glacier Blue L.18 A050 A050 B 6223V P.079-4403 (ICI)
July-73 October-73
Ice Blue

Sable L.19 A050 B 6225V P.030 7604(ICI)
October-72

Siberian Sable

Indigo Blue L.20 A050 B 6226V October-72
July-73

Purple L.21 A050 B 6228V 0314494(ICI)
October-73

Roman Purple

Bitter Green L.22 Was L.28 A050 B 6229V P.030 9501
(ICI)
October-73
Canadian Green 6170 X 2079 (PJ)
Colour( and alternative) Code Source Lotus Part No.
Supplier
Part No. Introduced Discontinued

Sepia Brown L.23 A050 B 6230V P.030 TW 25028 (ICI)
October-73 March-74
Burmese Brown 6170 Y 4817 (PJ)

Firecracker L.24 A050 B 6231V P.030 8662 (ICI)
October-73 January-74
6170 X 5105 (PJ)

Monaco White L.25 A050 B 6232V P.030 7517 (ICI)
October-73
Andes White 6170 Y 0900 (PJ)

Olympic Blue L.26 A050 B 6233V P.030 9257 (ICI)
October-73

Gold Laquer (Roof, Bumper) A036 B 6345V 6170 A
3130 (PJ)

Silver Laquer (Bumper) A036 B 6313V 6170 A 8020
(PJ)


Silver( +2s Roof) A036 B 6355V

Metallic Jewels A050 B 6222V



Cheers
G






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PostPost by: M100 » Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:43 pm

On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:33:17 -0000, "Gareth Flanagan"
<***@***.***> wrote:

Do the paint codes from muti-national companies not work in the
states????......
We give the paint shop the number and they find the cross reference for
it....I doubt anyone is using the same paint that lotus were using in
the 60's and 70's due to the fact that by todays standard they are
dangerous to both us and the enviroment........
If you want a certain paint colour then pick a car with that colour
paint on it and then go and ask the owner what colour it is...then you
can go to the main dealer and ask for a big tub of the stuff......If you
want cirrus white give the number to your shop and ask them to cross
match......if you want Ford Glacier White then ring ford up.....where's
the problem....

Why the struggle? All the Lotus "L" colours are standard formulations
available in modern formulations from PPG and many others.

PPG Carnival Red - LO5 - P420-8385

PPG Cirrus White - LO4 - P420-9049

PPG "Sprint Bumper Gold" - P962-3135B

You can also buy direct from Lotus (at huge expense)

Martin

72/45




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PostPost by: "Gareth Flanagan&quo » Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:53 pm

Thanks for agreeing with me Martin......
I don't understand the difficulty.....surely the paint shops in the US
have cross reference books too and therefore you should have no
problem......

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Evans [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: 21 March 2005 14:43
To: ***@***.***
Subject: Re: [LotusElan.net] Paint colours AGAIN



On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:33:17 -0000, "Gareth Flanagan"
<***@***.***> wrote:

Do the paint codes from muti-national companies not work in the
states????...... We give the paint shop the number and they find the
cross reference for it....I doubt anyone is using the same paint that
lotus were using in the 60's and 70's due to the fact that by todays
standard they are dangerous to both us and the enviroment........
If you want a certain paint colour then pick a car with that colour
paint on it and then go and ask the owner what colour it is...then you
can go to the main dealer and ask for a big tub of the stuff......If
you

want cirrus white give the number to your shop and ask them to cross
match......if you want Ford Glacier White then ring ford up.....where's
the problem....

Why the struggle? All the Lotus "L" colours are standard formulations
available in modern formulations from PPG and many others.

PPG Carnival Red - LO5 - P420-8385

PPG Cirrus White - LO4 - P420-9049

PPG "Sprint Bumper Gold" - P962-3135B

You can also buy direct from Lotus (at huge expense)

Martin

72/45




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PostPost by: tvacc » Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:56 pm

The paint codes listed do not correspond to any codes the major paint
suppliers.PPG.etc..that are here in Buffalo NY.



That is the problem.they cant match.find or cross reference these numbers.



Now I don't know why.and honestly am not concerned with how and why.



I was only asking if someone has done this before and if they have come up
with a close match for the gold in the decals and painted bumpers used on
the car.



I thought that asking this list was a lot easier than finding a car.chasing
it down..and then hoping it the correct color.



I am sorry that I seem to be upsetting you.I don't understand why.. .I
thought this is what the internet and this list is for..



People ask questions all day long on all of these lists.I answer a lot of
them. I just answered a guy on the Sevens list that wanted to know the
paint code for Caterham green. I gave it to him.now I know it had been said
before.but what did it hurt to send it again.quick answer to a quick
question..probably saved him a lot of time..and cost me very little time to
do so.much less time than writing this.



I enjoy helping people.don't see what the problem is here..





Regards



Tony V











_____

From: Gareth Flanagan [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 8:33 AM
To: ***@***.***
Subject: RE: [LotusElan.net] Paint colours AGAIN



Do the paint codes from muti-national companies not work in the
states????......
We give the paint shop the number and they find the cross reference for
it....I doubt anyone is using the same paint that lotus were using in
the 60's and 70's due to the fact that by todays standard they are
dangerous to both us and the enviroment........
If you want a certain paint colour then pick a car with that colour
paint on it and then go and ask the owner what colour it is...then you
can go to the main dealer and ask for a big tub of the stuff......If you
want cirrus white give the number to your shop and ask them to cross
match......if you want Ford Glacier White then ring ford up.....where's
the problem....



-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Vaccaro [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: 21 March 2005 13:20
To: ***@***.***
Subject: RE: [LotusElan.net] Paint colours AGAIN



Yes...Gareth..I checked the archive.but this is little help to me in the
US of A..





These numbers do not correlate to what I can get here.NOW..in modern
paint.



I would like to know if anyone has a close match.like Ford Diamond White
is to the Cirrus White.



Thanks in advance.



Tony V



_____

From: Gareth Flanagan [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 4:13 AM
To: ***@***.***
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Paint colours AGAIN



I have posted this to the group at lotuselan.net and on the lotuselan
yahoo group..... Does nobody look at the archive???....is there any
point in our leader putting in all the time and effort of our beloved
lotuselan.net web site if no-one can be @rsed looking in the archive
before asking the same sodding questions over and over again!!!!!! Rant
over Please see paint list below....I shall post in the files section
again for those who lose the tabulated info on here

Colour( and alternative) Code Source Lotus Part No.
Supplier
Part No. Introduced Discontinued
British Racing Green L.01 A036 B 6315V 6170 Y 2790
(PJ)
Before 1967 Motor Show October-70
Spruce Green -GN13 BMC
Conifer Green Triumph

French Blue L.02 A036 B 6316V 6170 Z 1280 (PJ)
Before 1967 Motor Show October-70

Wedgewood Blue L.03 Triumph A036 B 6317V 6170 Z 1290
(PJ)
Before 1967 Motor Show October-68

Cirrus White L.04 Ford 'AP' A036 B 6318V 6170 Y 2790
(PJ)
Before 1967 Motor Show October-73

Carnival Red L.05 Rootes '39' A036 B 6319V 6170 X
0540
(PJ)
Before 1967 Motor Show July-73

Burnt Sand L.06 Porsche 'Sand' A036 B 6320V 6170 X
5350
(PJ)
Before 1967 Motor Show October-70

Lotus Yellow L.07 A036 B 6321V 6170 X 3940 (PJ)
Before 1967 Motor Show

Matt Black L.08 A036 B 6312V 0235 X 9050RZ (PJ)
January-67

Royal Blue L.09 Porsche A036 B 6322V 6170 Z 1920
(PJ)
October-68 October-70

Bahama Yellow L.10 Porsche A036 B 6323V 6170 Y 3140
(PJ)
October-68 October-70

Regency Red L.11 Jaguar A036 B 6356V 6170 Y 5960
(PJ)
October-70
Maroon
French Burgundy

Lagoon Blue L.12 Rootes A036 B 6357V 6170 A 1130
(PJ)
October-70
Scandinavian Blue

Pistachio L.13 Jensen A036 B 6349V 6170 W 2230RI
(PJ)
October-70 July-73
Lime Green

Colorado Orange L.14 BMW A036 B 6350V 6170 Z 5980RI
(PJ)
October-70 October-72
Light Orange

Black Gloss L.15 A036 B 6397V P030 LINE 122 (ICI)
July-73
Polar Black

Tawny Brown L.16 Ford A036 B 6399V 6170 A 4330 (PJ)
October-72 January-74
Ford Tawny PO.31.3626 (ICI)

Mid Green L.17 Renault A036 B 6326V 6170 A 4330 (PJ)
July-73 October-73
Metallic Green

Glacier Blue L.18 A050 A050 B 6223V P.079-4403 (ICI)
July-73 October-73
Ice Blue

Sable L.19 A050 B 6225V P.030 7604(ICI)
October-72

Siberian Sable

Indigo Blue L.20 A050 B 6226V October-72
July-73

Purple L.21 A050 B 6228V 0314494(ICI)
October-73

Roman Purple

Bitter Green L.22 Was L.28 A050 B 6229V P.030 9501
(ICI)
October-73
Canadian Green 6170 X 2079 (PJ)
Colour( and alternative) Code Source Lotus Part No.
Supplier
Part No. Introduced Discontinued

Sepia Brown L.23 A050 B 6230V P.030 TW 25028 (ICI)
October-73 March-74
Burmese Brown 6170 Y 4817 (PJ)

Firecracker L.24 A050 B 6231V P.030 8662 (ICI)
October-73 January-74
6170 X 5105 (PJ)

Monaco White L.25 A050 B 6232V P.030 7517 (ICI)
October-73
Andes White 6170 Y 0900 (PJ)

Olympic Blue L.26 A050 B 6233V P.030 9257 (ICI)
October-73

Gold Laquer (Roof, Bumper) A036 B 6345V 6170 A
3130 (PJ)

Silver Laquer (Bumper) A036 B 6313V 6170 A 8020
(PJ)


Silver( +2s Roof) A036 B 6355V

Metallic Jewels A050 B 6222V



Cheers
G






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Drive Fast Take Chances
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99 Elise190, 91 M100 Elan, 74 Europa, 72 Europa JPS #15, 68 Elan Coupe RHD
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PostPost by: john.p.clegg » Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:57 pm

I use DULUX vinyl silk emulsion for my plus2,you can get it for ?4.99 forfive litres from any ASDA(walmart-U.S.)

John


Gareth Flanagan <***@***.***> wrote:

Thanks for agreeing with me Martin......
I don't understand the difficulty.....surely the paint shops in the US
have cross reference books too and therefore you should have no
problem......
PPG Carnival Red - LO5 - P420-8385

PPG Cirrus White - LO4 - P420-9049

PPG "Sprint Bumper Gold" - P962-3135B

You can also buy direct from Lotus (at huge expense)

Martin

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PostPost by: tvacc » Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:58 pm

Sorry guys.I again tried calling a local PPG shop..I give them these
numbers.and they don't come up in their computers..



Don't know why.but I will struggle on with this.



Tony V



_____

From: Martin Evans [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 9:43 AM
To: ***@***.***
Subject: Re: [LotusElan.net] Paint colours AGAIN



On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:33:17 -0000, "Gareth Flanagan"
<***@***.***> wrote:

Do the paint codes from muti-national companies not work in the
states????......
We give the paint shop the number and they find the cross reference for
it....I doubt anyone is using the same paint that lotus were using in
the 60's and 70's due to the fact that by todays standard they are
dangerous to both us and the enviroment........
If you want a certain paint colour then pick a car with that colour
paint on it and then go and ask the owner what colour it is...then you
can go to the main dealer and ask for a big tub of the stuff......If you
want cirrus white give the number to your shop and ask them to cross
match......if you want Ford Glacier White then ring ford up.....where's
the problem....

Why the struggle? All the Lotus "L" colours are standard formulations
available in modern formulations from PPG and many others.

PPG Carnival Red - LO5 - P420-8385

PPG Cirrus White - LO4 - P420-9049

PPG "Sprint Bumper Gold" - P962-3135B

You can also buy direct from Lotus (at huge expense)

Martin

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PostPost by: "Gareth Flanagan&quo » Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:01 pm

I prefer hammerite myself.......it stops all forms af cracks and
bubbling and you cant get the stuff off with anything less than a jack
hammer......

-----Original Message-----
From: JOHN CLEGG [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: 21 March 2005 15:57
To: ***@***.***
Subject: RE: [LotusElan.net] Paint colours AGAIN



I use DULUX vinyl silk emulsion for my plus2,you can get it for ?4.99
for five litres from any ASDA(walmart-U.S.)

John


Gareth Flanagan <***@***.***> wrote:

Thanks for agreeing with me Martin......
I don't understand the difficulty.....surely the paint shops in the US
have cross reference books too and therefore you should have no
problem...... PPG Carnival Red - LO5 - P420-8385

PPG Cirrus White - LO4 - P420-9049

PPG "Sprint Bumper Gold" - P962-3135B

You can also buy direct from Lotus (at huge expense)

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PostPost by: "Gareth Flanagan&quo » Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:12 pm

Tony
In which case have you tried ringing Ford?......their colours were the
lotus colours......therefore they should have some form of cross
reference....if not I will ring my shop and get the ford reference
number for you (or which ever car manufacturer uses this paint)
Cheers
G
Ps sorry to sound p!ssed off...its just we seem to have developed into a
paint forum recently with the number of times this similar question has
been posted and reworded.......

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Vaccaro [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: 21 March 2005 15:58
To: ***@***.***
Subject: RE: [LotusElan.net] Paint colours AGAIN



Sorry guys.I again tried calling a local PPG shop..I give them these
numbers.and they don't come up in their computers..



Don't know why.but I will struggle on with this.



Tony V



_____

From: Martin Evans [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 9:43 AM
To: ***@***.***
Subject: Re: [LotusElan.net] Paint colours AGAIN



On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:33:17 -0000, "Gareth Flanagan"
<***@***.***> wrote:

Do the paint codes from muti-national companies not work in the
states????...... We give the paint shop the number and they find the
cross reference for it....I doubt anyone is using the same paint that
lotus were using in the 60's and 70's due to the fact that by todays
standard they are dangerous to both us and the enviroment........
If you want a certain paint colour then pick a car with that colour
paint on it and then go and ask the owner what colour it is...then you
can go to the main dealer and ask for a big tub of the stuff......If
you

want cirrus white give the number to your shop and ask them to cross
match......if you want Ford Glacier White then ring ford up.....where's
the problem....

Why the struggle? All the Lotus "L" colours are standard formulations
available in modern formulations from PPG and many others.

PPG Carnival Red - LO5 - P420-8385

PPG Cirrus White - LO4 - P420-9049

PPG "Sprint Bumper Gold" - P962-3135B

You can also buy direct from Lotus (at huge expense)

Martin

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PostPost by: tvacc » Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:18 pm

Perhaps the dealers.parts places etc in the UK are much more nostalgic about
old cars..



Here in the states..if it is older than 10 years .forget getting anybody to
talk to you about it..much less still have records.that goes for Ford,
GM.etc etc.



30 years..they laugh at you...



As to looking things up.if it is not on the computer.it does not exist..



TonyV



_____

From: Gareth Flanagan [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 11:12 AM
To: ***@***.***
Subject: RE: [LotusElan.net] Paint colours AGAIN



Tony
In which case have you tried ringing Ford?......their colours were the
lotus colours......therefore they should have some form of cross
reference....if not I will ring my shop and get the ford reference
number for you (or which ever car manufacturer uses this paint)
Cheers
G
Ps sorry to sound p!ssed off...its just we seem to have developed into a
paint forum recently with the number of times this similar question has
been posted and reworded.......

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Vaccaro [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: 21 March 2005 15:58
To: ***@***.***
Subject: RE: [LotusElan.net] Paint colours AGAIN



Sorry guys.I again tried calling a local PPG shop..I give them these
numbers.and they don't come up in their computers..



Don't know why.but I will struggle on with this.



Tony V



_____

From: Martin Evans [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 9:43 AM
To: ***@***.***
Subject: Re: [LotusElan.net] Paint colours AGAIN



On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:33:17 -0000, "Gareth Flanagan"
<***@***.***> wrote:

Do the paint codes from muti-national companies not work in the
states????...... We give the paint shop the number and they find the
cross reference for it....I doubt anyone is using the same paint that
lotus were using in the 60's and 70's due to the fact that by todays
standard they are dangerous to both us and the enviroment........
If you want a certain paint colour then pick a car with that colour
paint on it and then go and ask the owner what colour it is...then you
can go to the main dealer and ask for a big tub of the stuff......If
you

want cirrus white give the number to your shop and ask them to cross
match......if you want Ford Glacier White then ring ford up.....where's
the problem....

Why the struggle? All the Lotus "L" colours are standard formulations
available in modern formulations from PPG and many others.

PPG Carnival Red - LO5 - P420-8385

PPG Cirrus White - LO4 - P420-9049

PPG "Sprint Bumper Gold" - P962-3135B

You can also buy direct from Lotus (at huge expense)

Martin

72/45




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PostPost by: "Roger Sieling" » Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:37 pm

Tony,

One problem I've had w/ PPG and other US suppliers (not just paint) is thattheir books and computers don't even list Lotus. If you make the mistake of asking for anything Lotus at most any auto business in the US, the next question you'll get is "Who makes that model?" I remember being frustrated by one book, may have been PPG paint codes that had listing for Lamborghini,but not Lotus!

When I researched LOT1 color code back in the early 80s, I had an older fellow at my PPG store who was quite helpful and who had saved some of their older paint code books, so we were able to follow the progression of paint codes that replaced the older ones. Even 20 years ago, this was a very tedious task in the good ole USA. Unfortunately, Jack retired from the business and his constant companion, Cancer Stick, got him shortly. And his replacement threw away all that worthless old junk Jack had kept around all those years. Funny how life and business has changed over our adult lives, not always for the better.

Roger

>> ***@***.*** 3/21/05 10:57:38 AM >>>

Sorry guys.I again tried calling a local PPG shop..I give them these
numbers.and they don't come up in their computers..



Don't know why.but I will struggle on with this.



Tony V



_____

From: Martin Evans [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 9:43 AM
To: ***@***.***
Subject: Re: [LotusElan.net] Paint colours AGAIN



On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:33:17 -0000, "Gareth Flanagan"
<***@***.***> wrote:

Do the paint codes from muti-national companies not work in the
states????......
We give the paint shop the number and they find the cross reference for
it....I doubt anyone is using the same paint that lotus were using in
the 60's and 70's due to the fact that by todays standard they are
dangerous to both us and the enviroment........
If you want a certain paint colour then pick a car with that colour
paint on it and then go and ask the owner what colour it is...then you
can go to the main dealer and ask for a big tub of the stuff......If you
want cirrus white give the number to your shop and ask them to cross
match......if you want Ford Glacier White then ring ford up.....where's
the problem....

Why the struggle? All the Lotus "L" colours are standard formulations
available in modern formulations from PPG and many others.

PPG Carnival Red - LO5 - P420-8385

PPG Cirrus White - LO4 - P420-9049

PPG "Sprint Bumper Gold" - P962-3135B

You can also buy direct from Lotus (at huge expense)

Martin

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PostPost by: tvacc » Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:49 pm

I agree fully..at least I am not crazy..and feel like I am out in the
backwoods here in the USA.



Still did not get an answer I can use..Does anybody have a close match for
the gold bumpers.?



Tony V



_____

From: Roger Sieling [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 11:17 AM
To: ***@***.***
Subject: RE: [LotusElan.net] Paint colours AGAIN



Tony,

One problem I've had w/ PPG and other US suppliers (not just paint) is that
their books and computers don't even list Lotus. If you make the mistake of
asking for anything Lotus at most any auto business in the US, the next
question you'll get is "Who makes that model?" I remember being frustrated
by one book, may have been PPG paint codes that had listing for Lamborghini,
but not Lotus!

When I researched LOT1 color code back in the early 80s, I had an older
fellow at my PPG store who was quite helpful and who had saved some of their
older paint code books, so we were able to follow the progression of paint
codes that replaced the older ones. Even 20 years ago, this was a very
tedious task in the good ole USA. Unfortunately, Jack retired from the
business and his constant companion, Cancer Stick, got him shortly. And his
replacement threw away all that worthless old junk Jack had kept around all
those years. Funny how life and business has changed over our adult lives,
not always for the better.

Roger

>> ***@***.*** 3/21/05 10:57:38 AM >>>

Sorry guys.I again tried calling a local PPG shop..I give them these
numbers.and they don't come up in their computers..



Don't know why.but I will struggle on with this.



Tony V



_____

From: Martin Evans [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 9:43 AM
To: ***@***.***
Subject: Re: [LotusElan.net] Paint colours AGAIN



On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:33:17 -0000, "Gareth Flanagan"
<***@***.***> wrote:

Do the paint codes from muti-national companies not work in the
states????......
We give the paint shop the number and they find the cross reference for
it....I doubt anyone is using the same paint that lotus were using in
the 60's and 70's due to the fact that by todays standard they are
dangerous to both us and the enviroment........
If you want a certain paint colour then pick a car with that colour
paint on it and then go and ask the owner what colour it is...then you
can go to the main dealer and ask for a big tub of the stuff......If you
want cirrus white give the number to your shop and ask them to cross
match......if you want Ford Glacier White then ring ford up.....where's
the problem....

Why the struggle? All the Lotus "L" colours are standard formulations
available in modern formulations from PPG and many others.

PPG Carnival Red - LO5 - P420-8385

PPG Cirrus White - LO4 - P420-9049

PPG "Sprint Bumper Gold" - P962-3135B

You can also buy direct from Lotus (at huge expense)

Martin

72/45




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