Cylinder head breather
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Hi Everyone,
Spent last night taking the Carbs (dellorto) of fthe lotus (for
overhaul, and to give access to the dizzy and fuel pump) and in doing so
the cylinder head breather tube (That feeds into the rear carb) pulled
out of the head!
Is this pipe really only a push fit?
The pipe has also had a T piece brazed on to it (I am guessing to allow
the oil vapour to be routed under the car rather than into the carbs)
any one seem this mod before?
Cheers
tim
Spent last night taking the Carbs (dellorto) of fthe lotus (for
overhaul, and to give access to the dizzy and fuel pump) and in doing so
the cylinder head breather tube (That feeds into the rear carb) pulled
out of the head!
Is this pipe really only a push fit?
The pipe has also had a T piece brazed on to it (I am guessing to allow
the oil vapour to be routed under the car rather than into the carbs)
any one seem this mod before?
Cheers
tim
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tdafforn - Coveted Fifth Gear
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Yes, mine is a push fit as well, and no, no T piece.
David
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Dafforn [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: 08 December 2004 11:39
To: lotus elan
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Cylinder head breather
Hi Everyone,
Spent last night taking the Carbs (dellorto) of fthe lotus (for
overhaul, and to give access to the dizzy and fuel pump) and in doing so
the cylinder head breather tube (That feeds into the rear carb) pulled
out of the head!
Is this pipe really only a push fit?
The pipe has also had a T piece brazed on to it (I am guessing to allow
the oil vapour to be routed under the car rather than into the carbs)
any one seem this mod before?
Cheers
tim
David
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Dafforn [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: 08 December 2004 11:39
To: lotus elan
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Cylinder head breather
Hi Everyone,
Spent last night taking the Carbs (dellorto) of fthe lotus (for
overhaul, and to give access to the dizzy and fuel pump) and in doing so
the cylinder head breather tube (That feeds into the rear carb) pulled
out of the head!
Is this pipe really only a push fit?
The pipe has also had a T piece brazed on to it (I am guessing to allow
the oil vapour to be routed under the car rather than into the carbs)
any one seem this mod before?
Cheers
tim
- davidallen
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Yes Tim, it's a push fit and over time the contact with oil/petrol makes the "rubber" go kind of soft. I found that all the oily stuff was being routed through one choke of the Dellorto into one cylinder, causing that to be much dirtier than the rest, so I just stuck a six inch length of 15mm copper pipe (nothing like mixing your measuring systems) into the rubber elbow and vent it straight to atmosphere. This was the arrangement on early cars. Before any of our colonial cousins kick off about pollution, when are you going to sign the Kyoto agreement and when is California going to make SUV'scomply with the same emissions regulations as they have for normal cars?!!;-)
Retreats into bunker.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Dafforn
To: lotus elan
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 11:39 AM
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Cylinder head breather
Hi Everyone,
Spent last night taking the Carbs (dellorto) of fthe lotus (for
overhaul, and to give access to the dizzy and fuel pump) and in doing so
the cylinder head breather tube (That feeds into the rear carb) pulled
out of the head!
Is this pipe really only a push fit?
The pipe has also had a T piece brazed on to it (I am guessing to allow
the oil vapour to be routed under the car rather than into the carbs)
any one seem this mod before?
Cheers
tim
Retreats into bunker.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Dafforn
To: lotus elan
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 11:39 AM
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Cylinder head breather
Hi Everyone,
Spent last night taking the Carbs (dellorto) of fthe lotus (for
overhaul, and to give access to the dizzy and fuel pump) and in doing so
the cylinder head breather tube (That feeds into the rear carb) pulled
out of the head!
Is this pipe really only a push fit?
The pipe has also had a T piece brazed on to it (I am guessing to allow
the oil vapour to be routed under the car rather than into the carbs)
any one seem this mod before?
Cheers
tim
Cheers,
Pete.
http://www.petetaylor.org.uk
LOTUS ELAN flickr GROUP: https://www.flickr.com/groups/2515899@N20
flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/16096573@N02/sets/72157624226380576/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/16096573@N02/
Pete.
http://www.petetaylor.org.uk
LOTUS ELAN flickr GROUP: https://www.flickr.com/groups/2515899@N20
flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/16096573@N02/sets/72157624226380576/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/16096573@N02/
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elansprint71 - Coveted Fifth Gear
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I guess at the moment the venting is split pretty much evenly between
the route to the carb and the open T-piece. In fact if you rev the car
with the bonnet open you can sometimes see some smoke coming from the
open part of the tube...
Currently my only reason for having it connected to the carbs is in case
an observant MOT man sees it venting to the atmos. Which I think is a
failure...
The fact that the open end of the T is venting to the atmos. seems to be
missed as its open end is hidden by the bulkhead..
I guess as I am doing a carb rebuild I'll get an idea of how much crud
is ending up in the choke...
Cheers
Tim
PS I agree with your emission on emissions, but when will people wake up
to the fact that Electric cars are the be-all and end all of emissions.
The electricity has to be made somehow, and in most cases (Scandanavia,
France, Iceland and Scotland aside) its by burning fossil fuels.
elansprint71 wrote:
the route to the carb and the open T-piece. In fact if you rev the car
with the bonnet open you can sometimes see some smoke coming from the
open part of the tube...
Currently my only reason for having it connected to the carbs is in case
an observant MOT man sees it venting to the atmos. Which I think is a
failure...
The fact that the open end of the T is venting to the atmos. seems to be
missed as its open end is hidden by the bulkhead..
I guess as I am doing a carb rebuild I'll get an idea of how much crud
is ending up in the choke...
Cheers
Tim
PS I agree with your emission on emissions, but when will people wake up
to the fact that Electric cars are the be-all and end all of emissions.
The electricity has to be made somehow, and in most cases (Scandanavia,
France, Iceland and Scotland aside) its by burning fossil fuels.
elansprint71 wrote:
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tdafforn - Coveted Fifth Gear
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Speaking of catch tanks...I don't like sucking it back into the back
thru the carb either. The tanks I see in racing catalogs look kind of
big (and expensive) to fit the Elan. I've seen racer's use various
homemade (usually beer) cans. Just wondering what you all use and where
you put it.
Thanks, Fred T. '65 S2
thru the carb either. The tanks I see in racing catalogs look kind of
big (and expensive) to fit the Elan. I've seen racer's use various
homemade (usually beer) cans. Just wondering what you all use and where
you put it.
Thanks, Fred T. '65 S2
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Fred Talmadge - Fourth Gear
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Go to your local bicycle shop. They carry a wide variety of water bottles
and cages. Looks and works good.
Cheers
Bill Tebbutt
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-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Talmadge <***@***.***>
To: ***@***.*** <***@***.***>
Sent: Wed Dec 08 11:59:03 2004
Subject: RE: [LotusElan.net] Cylinder head breather
Speaking of catch tanks...I don't like sucking it back into the back
thru the carb either. The tanks I see in racing catalogs look kind of
big (and expensive) to fit the Elan. I've seen racer's use various
homemade (usually beer) cans. Just wondering what you all use and where
you put it.
Thanks, Fred T. '65 S2
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and cages. Looks and works good.
Cheers
Bill Tebbutt
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-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Talmadge <***@***.***>
To: ***@***.*** <***@***.***>
Sent: Wed Dec 08 11:59:03 2004
Subject: RE: [LotusElan.net] Cylinder head breather
Speaking of catch tanks...I don't like sucking it back into the back
thru the carb either. The tanks I see in racing catalogs look kind of
big (and expensive) to fit the Elan. I've seen racer's use various
homemade (usually beer) cans. Just wondering what you all use and where
you put it.
Thanks, Fred T. '65 S2
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- s2lola
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I am currently using a water bottle from a bicycle. However I have just
come across www.jazproducts.com who do a 1 Pint mini breather which is
ideal for the elan as it is very small - the breather, we all know the
elan is small
Fred Talmadge wrote:
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Regards,
Steve Waterworth
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Einstein: "The faster you drive, the slower you age..."
come across www.jazproducts.com who do a 1 Pint mini breather which is
ideal for the elan as it is very small - the breather, we all know the
elan is small
Fred Talmadge wrote:
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Regards,
Steve Waterworth
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steveww - Coveted Fifth Gear
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Fred,
I usually use Boddington's, it is brewed locally and I put it in my mouth. Where do you put your beer?
Cheers,
Pete
----- Original Message -----
From: Fred Talmadge
To: ***@***.***
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 4:59 PM
Subject: RE: [LotusElan.net] Cylinder head breather
Speaking of catch tanks...I don't like sucking it back into the back
thru the carb either. The tanks I see in racing catalogs look kind of
big (and expensive) to fit the Elan. I've seen racer's use various
homemade (usually beer) cans. Just wondering what you all use and where
you put it.
Thanks, Fred T. '65 S2
I usually use Boddington's, it is brewed locally and I put it in my mouth. Where do you put your beer?
Cheers,
Pete
----- Original Message -----
From: Fred Talmadge
To: ***@***.***
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 4:59 PM
Subject: RE: [LotusElan.net] Cylinder head breather
Speaking of catch tanks...I don't like sucking it back into the back
thru the carb either. The tanks I see in racing catalogs look kind of
big (and expensive) to fit the Elan. I've seen racer's use various
homemade (usually beer) cans. Just wondering what you all use and where
you put it.
Thanks, Fred T. '65 S2
Cheers,
Pete.
http://www.petetaylor.org.uk
LOTUS ELAN flickr GROUP: https://www.flickr.com/groups/2515899@N20
flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/16096573@N02/sets/72157624226380576/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/16096573@N02/
Pete.
http://www.petetaylor.org.uk
LOTUS ELAN flickr GROUP: https://www.flickr.com/groups/2515899@N20
flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/16096573@N02/sets/72157624226380576/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/16096573@N02/
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elansprint71 - Coveted Fifth Gear
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My favorite is to repurpose an aluminum fuel bottle for
camping/hiking. Come in a variety of sizes, look great. Only negative
is that you can't see what the fluid level is. For easy drainage you
can invert them and punch holes in the top (bottom).
Kiyoshi
camping/hiking. Come in a variety of sizes, look great. Only negative
is that you can't see what the fluid level is. For easy drainage you
can invert them and punch holes in the top (bottom).
Kiyoshi
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khamai - Third Gear
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I like St Arnold's but it only comes in glass bottles. Fred T.
-----Original Message-----
From: elansprint71 [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 11:53 AM
To: ***@***.***
Subject: Re: [LotusElan.net] Cylinder head breather
Fred,
I usually use Boddington's, it is brewed locally and I put it in my
mouth. Where do you put your beer?
Cheers,
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: elansprint71 [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 11:53 AM
To: ***@***.***
Subject: Re: [LotusElan.net] Cylinder head breather
Fred,
I usually use Boddington's, it is brewed locally and I put it in my
mouth. Where do you put your beer?
Cheers,
Pete
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Fred Talmadge - Fourth Gear
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That's a good idea. I wonder if it would work for the overflow from the
radiator; my car has not got one fitted.
David
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Tebbutt [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: 08 December 2004 17:06
To: '***@***.***'
Subject: Re: [LotusElan.net] Cylinder head breather
Go to your local bicycle shop. They carry a wide variety of water bottles
and cages. Looks and works good.
Cheers
Bill Tebbutt
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-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Talmadge <***@***.***>
To: ***@***.*** <***@***.***>
Sent: Wed Dec 08 11:59:03 2004
Subject: RE: [LotusElan.net] Cylinder head breather
Speaking of catch tanks...I don't like sucking it back into the back
thru the carb either. The tanks I see in racing catalogs look kind of
big (and expensive) to fit the Elan. I've seen racer's use various
homemade (usually beer) cans. Just wondering what you all use and where
you put it.
Thanks, Fred T. '65 S2
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radiator; my car has not got one fitted.
David
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Tebbutt [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: 08 December 2004 17:06
To: '***@***.***'
Subject: Re: [LotusElan.net] Cylinder head breather
Go to your local bicycle shop. They carry a wide variety of water bottles
and cages. Looks and works good.
Cheers
Bill Tebbutt
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-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Talmadge <***@***.***>
To: ***@***.*** <***@***.***>
Sent: Wed Dec 08 11:59:03 2004
Subject: RE: [LotusElan.net] Cylinder head breather
Speaking of catch tanks...I don't like sucking it back into the back
thru the carb either. The tanks I see in racing catalogs look kind of
big (and expensive) to fit the Elan. I've seen racer's use various
homemade (usually beer) cans. Just wondering what you all use and where
you put it.
Thanks, Fred T. '65 S2
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- davidallen
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Yes, that is what I have for my radiator overflow. I cut the
drinking nipple off, instered a gromet in the hole, then the tube
into the gromet. The bottle cage is screwed down from the bottom.
Mike Geiger
--- In ***@***.***, "ALLEN, David" <david.allen@e...>
wrote:
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drinking nipple off, instered a gromet in the hole, then the tube
into the gromet. The bottle cage is screwed down from the bottom.
Mike Geiger
--- In ***@***.***, "ALLEN, David" <david.allen@e...>
wrote:
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66 S3 Coupe', no more
66 S3 Coupe', no more
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type36lotus - Fourth Gear
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I was thinking along those lines. Sorry, what do you mean "The bottle cage
is screwed down from the bottom."?
David
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Geiger [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: 09 December 2004 12:06
To: ***@***.***
Subject: Re: [LotusElan.net] Cylinder head breather
Yes, that is what I have for my radiator overflow. I cut the
drinking nipple off, instered a gromet in the hole, then the tube
into the gromet. The bottle cage is screwed down from the bottom.
Mike Geiger
--- In ***@***.***, "ALLEN, David" <david.allen@e...>
wrote:
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is screwed down from the bottom."?
David
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Geiger [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: 09 December 2004 12:06
To: ***@***.***
Subject: Re: [LotusElan.net] Cylinder head breather
Yes, that is what I have for my radiator overflow. I cut the
drinking nipple off, instered a gromet in the hole, then the tube
into the gromet. The bottle cage is screwed down from the bottom.
Mike Geiger
--- In ***@***.***, "ALLEN, David" <david.allen@e...>
wrote:
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