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Fitting a S4 DHC Screen !!!!!!!!! HELLLPP!

PostPost by: "nebogipfel2004" » Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:16 pm

Hi All

Has anyone got any experience of fitting screens to dropheads?

My screen refuses to go in. I have converted FHC to DHC but am
confident the frame is correct in both dimension and alignment. It
is the same screen going back in a new (Susan Miller) rubber.

When offered into the aperture the screen seems to fit the hole but
with the rubber in situ it will not cooperate :((

Any experiences thoughts and ideas greatly appreciated

Are they usually a pain in the .......?

John
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PostPost by: archigator » Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:14 am

John,

I just fitted my old windshield into a new rubber gasket on my Sprint
FHC, and, "I feel your pain!" I started with the rubber set on the
flange all around the window, then inserted the glass into the bottom
of the sill. I then worked the glass up both sides of the pilar using
half of a wooden clothespin and plastic bicycle tire levers... tools
that would break before my glass would. Once I had both pilars done,
I worked the top rubber from the inside of the car from one side of
the car to the other. Had to walk away from it several times in
frustration. Finally got it in, and then set the chrome filler strip
with my wooden clothespin "tool." It really made my day when it went
in. Slow and steady gets it done... I don't know that being a DHC
would make much of a difference in the approach. Good luck!

Gary
'71 Elan Sprint FHC


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Has anyone got any experience of fitting screens to dropheads?...

...Are they usually a pain in the .......?

John
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PostPost by: "Tom the scooper&quo » Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:57 pm

The trick that worked for me was to flex the frame a little to help things along rather then trying to only work the rubber. With that said it still took 2 people and it was not easy. Best of luck.
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Hi All

Has anyone got any experience of fitting screens to dropheads?

My screen refuses to go in. I have converted FHC to DHC but am
confident the frame is correct in both dimension and alignment. It
is the same screen going back in a new (Susan Miller) rubber.

When offered into the aperture the screen seems to fit the hole but
with the rubber in situ it will not cooperate :((

Any experiences thoughts and ideas greatly appreciated

Are they usually a pain in the .......?

John








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PostPost by: Unibrain » Thu Nov 25, 2004 3:01 pm

nebogipfel2004 wrote:
Has anyone got any experience of fitting screens to dropheads?

I hired a local glass shop to come to the house and install the
windscreen. It took two professionals about an hour and cost $150US for
the front and rear screen on a FHC. I did the same for a DHC last
summer and it was $100us. In my mind well worth the price.

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PostPost by: jeff wolfson » Thu Nov 25, 2004 3:53 pm

>I hired a local glass shop to come to the house and install the
windscreen.<<


I agree with Jim - I did the same here in South Africa. Money very well
spent - and they inserted the chrome trim strip as well.
I know there are people on this list who regard getting someone else to work
on their car as being akin to having someone else sleep with the wife but
there are limits!

Jeff
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PostPost by: Tim Dafforn » Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:03 pm

You mean you can pay someone to sleep with the wife?
T.

Jeff Wolfson wrote:

>>I hired a local glass shop to come to the house and install the
windscreen.<<

I agree with Jim - I did the same here in South Africa. Money very well
spent - and they inserted the chrome trim strip as well.
I know there are people on this list who regard getting someone else
to work
on their car as being akin to having someone else sleep with the wife but
there are limits!

Jeff
66 S3 FHC - with new windscreen and trim







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PostPost by: "Eric Salomon" » Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:11 pm

How is your wife doing, Jeff. Arno's friend was wondering if you needed your handbrake fixed?



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Subject: RE: [LotusElan.net] Fitting a S4 DHC Screen !!!!!!!!! HELLLPP!


>I hired a local glass shop to come to the house and install the
windscreen.<<


I agree with Jim - I did the same here in South Africa. Money very well
spent - and they inserted the chrome trim strip as well.
I know there are people on this list who regard getting someone else to work
on their car as being akin to having someone else sleep with the wife but
there are limits!

Jeff
66 S3 FHC - with new windscreen and trim







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PostPost by: "Stan Aarhus" » Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:12 pm

Does the S4 use the rubber two channel gasket and the chrome plastic lock strip as fitted on the S3 Coupe'? If so, I always did mine with a bottle ofliquid detergent and a length of parachute cord. Just curious.

Stan
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>I hired a local glass shop to come to the house and install the
windscreen.<<


I agree with Jim - I did the same here in South Africa. Money very well
spent - and they inserted the chrome trim strip as well.
I know there are people on this list who regard getting someone else to work
on their car as being akin to having someone else sleep with the wife but
there are limits!

Jeff
66 S3 FHC - with new windscreen and trim







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PostPost by: types26/36 » Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:15 pm

--- In ***@***.***, "Jeff Wolfson" <[email protected]>
wrote:
I know there are people on this list who regard getting someone
else to work

on their car as being akin to having someone else sleep with the
wife but.........................


OH! come on now Jeff, I just fitted my front & rear screens after
replacing the headlining and its not too bad, you should have waited
untill I am there in Jauary and about sleeping with the
wife..........Well!!
Brian
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PostPost by: "nebogipfel2004" » Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:37 pm

--- In ***@***.***, "Stan Aarhus" <[email protected]> wrote:
Does the S4 use the rubber two channel gasket and the chrome
plastic lock strip as fitted on the S3 Coupe'? If so, I always did

mine with a bottle of liquid detergent and a length of parachute
cord. Just curious.

Hi All,

Yes it does Stan. I have tried the rubber on the glass and pulling
it in with cord method. I have tried the rubber in the aperture and
then setting the glass in it. Two people and about 5 Hours later and
it is still not in.

I am getting to the point where I would put my leg in a sack of
rattlesnakes if I thought it would help .........at least your
replies have told me it isn't just me!

As a final thought, the problem with lots of the pro' screen fitters
around nowadays, if they can't stick the screen in with glue they
usually don't want to know
John
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PostPost by: "Tim and Jo" » Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:30 pm

Here's a write up I did years ago that ended up on the
Golden Gate Lotus Club's web site.

<http://www.gglotus.org/ggtech/elan-windscreen/ELANWINDow.htm>

The ASCII art of the tool described in the article didn't
translate well when the "extra" spaces were removed from
the "article". The tool should look like:

/\
/ \
/ \
/ \
\ /
\ /
\ /
||
||
||
||
||
||

Tim Mullen

72 Elan Sprint DHC
Chantilly, VA



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From: nebogipfel2004 [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 2:16 PM
To: ***@***.***
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Fitting a S4 DHC Screen !!!!!!!!! HELLLPP!




Hi All

Has anyone got any experience of fitting screens to dropheads?

My screen refuses to go in. I have converted FHC to DHC but am
confident the frame is correct in both dimension and alignment. It
is the same screen going back in a new (Susan Miller) rubber.

When offered into the aperture the screen seems to fit the hole but
with the rubber in situ it will not cooperate :((

Any experiences thoughts and ideas greatly appreciated

Are they usually a pain in the .......?

John









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PostPost by: Marc Fuller » Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:52 pm

Has anybody found a source for the tool that the Lotus manual shows for
installing the windshield? I'll be up against the task soon, also.


At 09:36 AM 11/25/2004, you wrote:


--- In ***@***.***, "Stan Aarhus" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Does the S4 use the rubber two channel gasket and the chrome
plastic lock strip as fitted on the S3 Coupe'? If so, I always did
mine with a bottle of liquid detergent and a length of parachute
cord. Just curious.

Hi All,

Yes it does Stan. I have tried the rubber on the glass and pulling
it in with cord method. I have tried the rubber in the aperture and
then setting the glass in it. Two people and about 5 Hours later and
it is still not in.

I am getting to the point where I would put my leg in a sack of
rattlesnakes if I thought it would help .........at least your
replies have told me it isn't just me!

As a final thought, the problem with lots of the pro' screen fitters
around nowadays, if they can't stick the screen in with glue they
usually don't want to know
John










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PostPost by: Arno Church » Thu Nov 25, 2004 7:00 pm

Anybody's wife need some lessons????


How is your wife doing, Jeff. Arno's friend was wondering if you needed
your handbrake fixed?




>I hired a local glass shop to come to the house and install the
windscreen.<<


I agree with Jim - I did the same here in South Africa. Money very well
spent - and they inserted the chrome trim strip as well.
I know there are people on this list who regard getting someone else to work
on their car as being akin to having someone else sleep with the wife but
there are limits!

Jeff
66 S3 FHC - with new windscreen and trim
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PostPost by: Arno Church » Thu Nov 25, 2004 7:00 pm

I only have one comment to add....
Lots and lots of soapy water - 15% liquid dishwashing detergent solution -
to lubricate the screen and screen rubber
This makes it a cinch
Arno
The trick that worked for me was to flex the frame a little to help things
along rather then trying to only work the rubber. With that said it still
took 2 people and it was not easy. Best of luck.
----- Original Message -----
From: nebogipfel2004
To: ***@***.***
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 2:15 PM
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Fitting a S4 DHC Screen !!!!!!!!! HELLLPP!



Hi All

Has anyone got any experience of fitting screens to dropheads?

My screen refuses to go in. I have converted FHC to DHC but am
confident the frame is correct in both dimension and alignment. It
is the same screen going back in a new (Susan Miller) rubber.

When offered into the aperture the screen seems to fit the hole but
with the rubber in situ it will not cooperate :((

Any experiences thoughts and ideas greatly appreciated

Are they usually a pain in the .......?

John
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PostPost by: elansprint71 » Thu Nov 25, 2004 7:35 pm

Arno,
Do you lubricate the wives too?

Pete
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Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 6:44 PM
Subject: RE: [LotusElan.net] Fitting a S4 DHC Screen !!!!!!!!! HELLLPP!


I only have one comment to add....
Lots and lots of soapy water - 15% liquid dishwashing detergent solution -
to lubricate the screen and screen rubber
This makes it a cinch
Arno
The trick that worked for me was to flex the frame a little to help things
along rather then trying to only work the rubber. With that said it still
took 2 people and it was not easy. Best of luck.
----- Original Message -----
From: nebogipfel2004
To: ***@***.***
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 2:15 PM
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Fitting a S4 DHC Screen !!!!!!!!! HELLLPP!



Hi All

Has anyone got any experience of fitting screens to dropheads?

My screen refuses to go in. I have converted FHC to DHC but am
confident the frame is correct in both dimension and alignment. It
is the same screen going back in a new (Susan Miller) rubber.

When offered into the aperture the screen seems to fit the hole but
with the rubber in situ it will not cooperate :((

Any experiences thoughts and ideas greatly appreciated

Are they usually a pain in the .......?

John












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